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juskom95 (01-11-2018),MountainGirl (01-11-2018),Ricekila (01-11-2018),Slippy (01-11-2018),Unclefred (01-11-2018)
Ricekila (01-11-2018)
Ricekila (01-11-2018)
Two things about smart meters:
1 - Depending on the area, region, city and county homeowners have the option of replacing the smart meters with the old analog meters. They have to pay for it, but it can be replaced.
2 - Utility companies still have the right/power to enter your property to manually read the meter or check on their equipment. Having a meter which can be read from the road does not remove the easement laws.
That said, some of the new smart meters are very invasive. I know here in KY they can/will turn off your furnace and AC unit if they draw "too much," during a period of time along with other "high energy use devices." This was stated (in the fine print) when the local utilities tried to get my house to switch. Right now we still have the old analog meter.
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MI.oldguy (01-11-2018),Ricekila (01-11-2018),Walter Tyler (01-11-2018)
This is why I sit in the dark --
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juskom95 (01-11-2018),Unclefred (01-11-2018),Walter Tyler (01-11-2018)
ON Residential units??? I have see this on highrise buildings in Saint Louis, but a separate meter "circuit" has to be installed on the equipment. I could see the Electric Company changing the wave length so certain motors wont work but SOMETHING has to be on the equipment for them just to shut that off during high use times... other wise folks WOULD be sitting in the dark.
Ameren has an easement on to Tyler Island. They even have their own lock on the gate. IT has never been used with out permission/notice. Most folks cant even find the gate. We lost grid power for a couple of days last year when the floods took out the power pole to the Island. Ameren didnt even know we were out, so Im not sure if we got a "smart" meter or not. It IS digital.
The new smart meters have more pieces I believe. Keep in mind things like the AC compressor and furnace are their own circuit too.
I have a dog (looks like a fake Pitbull from a distance), which stopped any of the meter readers and line workers from entering my property without notification first. After two accidents (line worker didn't tell us he was there and I let the dog outside . . . .) they knock now.Ameren has an easement on to Tyler Island. They even have their own lock on the gate. IT has never been used with out permission/notice. Most folks cant even find the gate. We lost grid power for a couple of days last year when the floods took out the power pole to the Island. Ameren didnt even know we were out, so Im not sure if we got a "smart" meter or not.
I believer there are different kinds of smart meters out there. My parents' had one on their old home for about a decade, but the power company didn't have any more power than they did before. The new ones I was offered are truly worrisome.It IS digital.
"Every person’s life is theirs by right. An individual’s life can and must belong only to himself, not to any society or community, or he is then but a slave. No one can deny another person their right to their life, nor seize by force what is produced by someone else, because that is stealing their means to sustain their life. It is treason against mankind to hold a knife to a man’s throat and dictate how he must live his life."
COFFEE!
Ricekila (01-11-2018),Walter Tyler (01-11-2018)
They changed to smart meters here a while ago.our dog misses the meter reader because he used to talk to her and give her biscuits.
The township is changing to smart water meters in the spring.wife's uncle said that his water bill went up considerably,he called the water board (heh)and they said the old mechanical ones slow down with age.looks like our water bill will probably go up too.
Still have older style NG meter but gas guy reads ours with bino's.lazy bastard.good thing some meters are on sides of some houses.
I have read about peak times and people with smart appliances getting shut off by the power companies.all our stuff is dumb old school...
juskom95 (01-11-2018),MountainGirl (01-11-2018),Ricekila (01-11-2018)
The only S/M's we have around here is the water meter -- instead of mailing in the card -- they drive down the street in the Prius with the big antenna on the roof -- the little antenna on the meter in the basement I covered with 3 layers of tin foil with just a little hole on the street side - to stop or distort the sideways pinging --
They wanna know how often I wash my ------------- feet -- fine -- LOL
NRA Instructor / RSO & NRA Life Member / NYSRPA member / GOA member / S.A.F.E. Armorer / 03-FFL / Moist Nugget gun nut / Venturing Crew COR / Ammosexual / Wayne County PA - visitors CCW holder / And a right wing Republican Jew with guns
The word liberal is a misnomer ( look it up )
And Epstein didn't kill himself
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