I am with ya Inor, if I am shelling out 500 bucks it better go bang. I carry a good quality auto, maybe 150 bucks worth that has lasted me going on 6 or 7 years now. They are good to have but if it comes down to a fight I am looking to the gun rather then a knife. I am to old to be dicking around with knife fights. I'll just put a bullet in ya and call it a day.