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BucketBack
07-10-2018, 02:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMv-BCfIbcY

juskom95
07-10-2018, 02:34 PM
RealID has been in the process of implementation now for several years, it went live 05FEB2018.

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id

EDIT:

I've seen the KY state drivers' license pictures systems, they are FAR from compliant with this.

Inor
07-10-2018, 02:39 PM
The AZ drivers license says "NOT FOR FEDERAL ID" right on the front.

We will not comply! (Unfortunately, that means I am going to have to use my passport to travel domestically starting this fall.)

Kfilly
07-10-2018, 02:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMv-BCfIbcY

Just call it what it is. "Your Papers Please" Nazi Germany style policing tactic. Since Trump is on our side, I am sure he will stop this. Ok, that last sentence was sheer sarcasm. Another checkmark against Trump being for the people.

MountainGirl
07-10-2018, 02:44 PM
The AZ drivers license says "NOT FOR FEDERAL ID" right on the front.

We will not comply! (Unfortunately, that means I am going to have to use my passport to travel domestically starting this fall.)
Are you going to renew your DL when it expires? Bet they get ya then.

My ID drivers license says "USA ID" right on the front.

I need to start issuing Peaceful Mountain passports. :)

juskom95
07-10-2018, 02:45 PM
Just call it what it is. "Your Papers Please" Nazi Germany style policing tactic. Since Trump is on our side, I am sure he will stop this. Ok, that last sentence was sheer sarcasm. Another checkmark against Trump being for the people.

You need to go back and READ the Constitution. Blame Trump all you want, but you seem to want him to be a dictator, when the true responsibility for most of this lies in Congress and/or SCOTUS.

Place blame and responsibility where it needs to be placed . . . unless you're hoping for a dictator?

Inor
07-10-2018, 03:00 PM
Are you going to renew your DL when it expires? Bet they get ya then.

My ID drivers license says "USA ID" right on the front.

I need to start issuing Peaceful Mountain passports. :)

They offer some kind of second ID specifically for federal purposes. I'll just use my passport since I already have it.

Kfilly
07-10-2018, 03:26 PM
You need to go back and READ the Constitution. Blame Trump all you want, but you seem to want him to be a dictator, when the true responsibility for most of this lies in Congress and/or SCOTUS.

Place blame and responsibility where it needs to be placed . . . unless you're hoping for a dictator?

I am not calling for a dictatorship. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy off all the Trump supporters who say he is on our side. This was started during Bush 2 in 2005. Trump could still stop it, but he is not truly on our side. So, he won't. Why do you keep defending anyone in this government?

Left, left, left, right, left ...dictatorship

Didn't you say the Supreme Court was not corrupt in a previous post? Which is it? My entire point is that this entire government is corrupt, vile, and repulsive.

RubberDuck
07-10-2018, 04:14 PM
This goes by another name unless I am mistaken is this not the enhanced driver's license?
Eliminating the need for a passport as well as rumored to be the cpl putting it all on one ID
As a cdl driver I already have to supply all those peices of ID to get my license so nothing new to me.
As for data base of facials they already have it and probably had it long before that technology will only continue to advance not matter who complains

TJC44
07-10-2018, 07:46 PM
CT has Real ID as an option for your license now. Have not heard of them implementing it 100%. Will check on that.

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juskom95
07-11-2018, 07:31 AM
I am not calling for a dictatorship. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy off all the Trump supporters who say he is on our side.
The problem is, you're attempting to point out hypocrisy by stating Trump is not performing actions which are not within his Constitutional power. That is NOT a sound or reasonable argument.


This was started during Bush 2 in 2005. Trump could still stop it, but he is not truly on our side. So, he won't.
So you want Trump to write an illegal EO?

You're right back to demanding a dictator.


Why do you keep defending anyone in this government?
I am not, I am simply pointing out that you are asking for things which go blatantly against the US Constitution. You are using falsehoods in an attempt to prove a point.

The reality is the President has NO POWER at this time to reverse Real ID, it is a legislative act. If you read the Constitution, then you know that the only legal method for rectifying that is through Congress.


Left, left, left, right, left ...dictatorship
You are seeing what you need to see to justify what is not there.


Didn't you say the Supreme Court was not corrupt in a previous post? Which is it?
Never once did I state that. Go ahead and find the quote. See, if you had actually READ my post on SCOTUS (instead of going off on your SHADOW GOVERNMENT conspiracy theory) you would have seen that I stated getting Constitutionalist onto the Supreme Court was important and a step in the right direction.


My entire point is that this entire government is corrupt, vile, and repulsive.
My point was that you are demanding a President act outside their power, using dictatorial power of which you allegedly are against. You contradict yourself, on one hand you are terrified of a potential dictatorship then on the other hand you demand dictatorial actions.

Which is it?

juskom95
07-11-2018, 07:32 AM
This goes by another name unless I am mistaken is this not the enhanced driver's license?
Eliminating the need for a passport as well as rumored to be the cpl putting it all on one ID
As a cdl driver I already have to supply all those peices of ID to get my license so nothing new to me.
As for data base of facials they already have it and probably had it long before that technology will only continue to advance not matter who complains

It does not eliminate the need for a passport, it also has more "hooks," into the federal systems than a CDL does.

TJC44
07-11-2018, 08:06 AM
It does not eliminate the need for a passport, it also has more "hooks," into the federal systems than a CDL does.

You would still need the passport for international travel. Real ID would supposedly ease the process for domestic flights....so they say.

juskom95
07-11-2018, 08:13 AM
You would still need the passport for international travel. Real ID would supposedly ease the process for domestic flights....so they say.

The funny thing is, the complicated process for domestic flights was created by the Real ID legislation. It is a solution to a problem it created.

Inor
07-11-2018, 08:18 AM
The funny thing is, the complicated process for domestic flights was created by the Real ID legislation. It is a solution to a problem it created.

So it is just like the DMV in other words...

juskom95
07-11-2018, 08:33 AM
So it is just like the DMV in other words...

I'm glad I stopped flying before all that RealID garbage, then with some of the other insanity the TSA is trying to pull . . . I would have gotten arrested.

TJC44
07-11-2018, 09:22 AM
I haven't flown since we got married in 2011.