Bein' vegan (colon cancer and gout are not your friends.)

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Well, since several members of the forum feel I need to be banned because they don't agree with me on my opinions I decided to start one more thread.

I realize most of you are meat eaters. Like socialism is better than Capitalism, vegetarianism is better for your health. Not that eating meat is necessarily bad, vegetarianism is just so much better.

Now, before you sharpen your pitchforks and light your torches, I want to bring these ideas up:

1. Protein rich diets, especially red meat and pork increases your likelihood of gout.

2. That same diet increases your chance of colon cancer.

3. If you are an urban dweller the chance of having a supply of fresh meat dwindles quickly. Vegetable gardens are easily maintained as compared to livestock, and can even be grown indoors.
Several of you have denounced my posting on the bucket gardening, but how many of you had actual suggestions, or had a plan you actually used rather than talked about?

For now I'm going to submit this to you, with the working idea that being comfortable with and accustomed to a vegetarian diet if the trump hits the fan could very well be in your favor.

More tomorrow unless the New York fascist has his way and boots me for having a different opinion.

[Sasquatch]

Well, since several members of the forum feel I need to be banned because they don't agree with me on my opinions I decided to start one more thread.

I realize most of you are meat eaters. Like socialism is better than Capitalism, vegetarianism is better for your health. Not that eating meat is necessarily bad, vegetarianism is just so much better.

Now, before you sharpen your pitchforks and light your torches, I want to bring these ideas up:

1. Protein rich diets, especially red meat and pork increases your likelihood of gout.

2. That same diet increases your chance of colon cancer.

3. If you are an urban dweller the chance of having a supply of fresh meat dwindles quickly. Vegetable gardens are easily maintained as compared to livestock, and can even be grown indoors.
Several of you have denounced my posting on the bucket gardening, but how many of you had actual suggestions, or had a plan you actually used rather than talked about?

For now I'm going to submit this to you, with the working idea that being comfortable with and accustomed to a vegetarian diet if the trump hits the fan could very well be in your favor.

More tomorrow unless the New York fascist has his way and boots me for having a different opinion.

Vegetarianism is great except: Many of the most popular organic fertilizers and soil amendments contain animal ingredients such as bone meal, blood meal, and chicken feather meal, fish-based fertilizers, and manures.

As for gout, Eating a diet rich in meat and seafood and drinking beverages sweetened with fruit sugar (fructose) increase levels of uric acid, which increase your risk of gout. Alcohol consumption, especially of beer, also increases the risk of gout. Make sure you read that sentence again. Increasing your risk of gout is different than actually increasing it. I would guess drinking beverages high in sugars and eating sweets would most likely be the main cause. Sugar is the cause of many ailments.

I urge you to check into the Paleo diet and learn how our bodies have not changed much since the caveman, yet the addition of agriculture is when humans started having more health problems.

It's good to see your resume includes dietician along with all your other credentials.

[rstanek]

People don’t take issue with disagreements, that is one reason we are all here, to exchange ideas, debate, tell a few jokes, and so one, what I have a problem with is when a new person presents themselves as a know it all and starts talking down to everyone, we all including the new people, have something to learn and share, my advice to you is to show some respect and grow a thick skin. On the subject of meat, I am an meat eater as well as vegetables, nuts, and fruits. Eating good food is one of those simple pleasures we all enjoy and when all the above mentioned are consumed in a common sense manner. Also we do it to survive, as far as what is good and what is not. Everyone is different in how foreign material taken into our bodies is handled and processed, so, no magic bullet is going to make all the negative aspects of food go away, just my opinion of course, been here 65 years and I’m still consuming red meat and I will until it’s no longer required......

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.

Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

[hawgrider]

I'm on a seafood diet. All I have to do is see food then I kill it, then I slice open and pull the guts out, then I skin it, then I chop it into little pieces and wrap it, then I eat it one package at a time.

[Coastie dad]

Ability to make food out of animals is good, but not necessary.
Self reliance is good.

But a self reliant, non violent vegetarian is better.

And don't we all want to "Be Best?"

[Gambit]

studies shown that second generation of vegans are showed sign of having a higher risk of cancer from colon to bone type cancers then those who are none vegans and even vegetarian
this is due to the human body needs trans that comes from higher proteins
also show that people on vegans diets and even vegetarian type diets have shown to have lower testosterones/estrogen . young man at the age of 21-25 have less testosterones then that of a man in his late 50s to even mid 60's, note these young men that did the study where vegans for more then 3-5 years
also the vegetarians also had lower phytoestrogens then that of a human male on a basic diet that has animal meats and fats
vegetarians who have dairy regularly have a higher phytoestrogens then that of those who don't or who are completely vegan
lower testodterones have also been link to homosexuality. how many vegan men you fine out are only into tube steak? more then 35% are gay and more then half will play both sides of the field, women you fine are the only ones who are not as effected with lower sex drive but have found that they don't have a correct monthly cycles or has had longer periods then normal which has led to deaths due to lack of iron/proteins that's needed in bone marrow, blood, liver and heart function
also note humans have canine teeth for a reason

also vegan cheeses and the vegan mayo all have 2 ingredients that's in relations of the glutamic acid somewhere down its family tree
glutamic acid is in a aspartame, and you fine other ingredients in relations to that of anti-freeze

when I am the voice of reason the world is ****ed! when I have to act smart and show what little IQ I have then the whole universe is even more ****ed!
so if this is a sock, you should be ashamed of yourself!

[rstanek]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.


Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

Yes, we do buy SOME of our meat a the grocery store, we do butcher our own also, do I feel l tree hugging bad about it, not in the least, evolution has nothing to to with us being omnivores, it’s who we were, it’s who were are. FYI, I also shoot grown up Bambi’s, yum.....

[juskom95]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.

Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.No living creature can continue living without either relying on or causing the death of something else.

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[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Why does this group feel that they can spout " facts and studies" that are valid, but because my facts and studies disagree with your beliefs, mine are invalid?

Is this once again the same hypocrisy you accuse us of?

[rstanek]

I’m not saying I’m always right, but when someone debates me, before I agree you need to change my mind about what’s being debated, it seems to me that when your challenged in a debate you take it as a threat and it becomes personal, if you want to attack me personally, have at it , because I don’t give a rats ass , being in the profession that I’m in, I deal with adults that act like children all the time, so I don’t take shit personally. As far as facts about what food be consum it seem the experts can’t even make up their mind about what’s good and bad, it seems to change weekly, so for now I just going to keep eating venison, burgers,bacon rib eye steaks, chicken, an occasional tree rat, a few rabbits, let’s see, I will let you know if I forget anything.....

[Coastie dad]

I don't think he was personally attacking, because I don't think the whiney little shit knows how.

Most trolls really try to piss off the forum. I think this one may just be a stupid assed liberal shit.


How's that for a personal attack, you buttmunching, pedagogically challenged specimen?
I bet your Mama's eggs had reached their "best by" date whenever one got cracked at the gang bang.

[Coastie dad]

Where are you, Turdtapper? Pussed out already?

[shootbrownelk]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.

Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

I'm from the west. My wife and I have lived on Elk, Deer, Antelope and an occasional Moose plus game birds and waterfowl for the last 35 years. We have bought little meat from grocery stores, except for some pork and chicken. I kill almost everything we eat. I prefer that the game eats the greens and then I kill and eat the game. Ooops, I for got the Trout, Salmon, Walleye that we ingest. As far as I can remember I have yet to kill my first human....so your correlation between killing an animal for food and killing another human being is lost on me. I hear that plenty of humans are shot or shot and killed in Chicago every day....you know, Chicago....Barry Obama's hometown.

[Inor]

Having worked in the computer industry for over 30 years, I have met more than my fair share of vegans. You can call me a an "ist" (racist, sexist, homoist, whatever you want), but one thing I have noticed as an unaffiliated observeror, those vegan pricks reek! They stink worse than the French with their ass smell! Vegans might be perfectly nice people but we will never know because their body odor is enough to gag a maggot!

Hey vegans: take a freakin' shower or eat some vitamins or do something about that horrible smell you all produce!

Until they invent a vegan thing that does not make me smell like a half-rotted corpse (and does not include peas because peas are the work of the devil), I am going to continue to enjoy beef, pork, chicken, some fish, venison, grouse, lamb, etc.

[Gambit]

also lets not forget other things wrong with vegans
killing animals if wrong but abortions are ok? **** that! any poll-sitter tells me this sh*t to my face will fine my large knuckles in his mouth and its not to preform some kind of a strange sex act!
reasons why I went and trolled vegans sites is mostly because they are the biggest hypocrites when it comes to a living creature.
when they bitch about the chickens or the pigs not wanting to die, well im sure the rabbit didn't want to die as it was eaten by a fox.
and when assholes want to say that the " those animals don't want to be killed and eaten" **** you! no normal person wants to die! and guess what? we die regardless what you eat and don't eat.
humans, animals, bug etc etc are all hunters and gatherers and scavengers and in the end the ultimate predator " death" hunts every living creature big or small down in the end.
in the end the reaper will come and take us home.

my mother still lives today and is at the point of elderly and where my father has passed. my father has and enjoyed strange food and even stranger combinations, such as porkchop and baked beans sandwich with limburger cheese or cheese burgers with extra bacon and mayo but also adds peanut butter to it.
he did not pass away at 81 from anything that peta and other cuck smokers claim that eaten animals will give you, in the end he passed away from lung cancer!
and yet cigarettes had killed more people then any murders and drunk diving combined. when are they going to protest that?

peta and other fag groups can care less too none for that of human lives unless it fits their agendas, just like democrats.


so im going to come out and say. if you are not a sock and truly here to ****ing be a prick
you sir/ma'am or whatever can go and **** yourself in the asshole with a loaded shotgun then have your remains sent to Africa to feed the starving lions and tigers and bears oh my!
sh*t as long as your remains are sent there, send a letter from me to the natives " dear natives, stop having so many ****ing kids if you cant feed them! you ****ing assholes!"

im done! also carebears are ****ing ghey! no male child should watch rainbow ****ing bears hug and kiss and other gay sh*t with each other ! this is also why we have so many limp wristed sissies so called men of today! ****ing should have watched GI-joe or some bullshit with laser and bullets and ****ing tanks

****!!!! now the troll has won, im Pissed off!

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

I'm sorry, puppy dog. I would love to understand and respond, but you are unintelligible with all the profanity and censored words.

When you can form coherent sentences we can talk. Until then, you may want to cut back on the red meat. Your blood pressure may be high enough to be fatal, and I don't really to have a conversation with you prior to your demise.

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Vegans smell? I think you are confusing us with hippies, those having chosen a lifestyle that, while admirable in some aspects, tends to be repugnant to others of us.

[Sarge7402]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.

Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

Nice going. No we're all not from the mid west. Perhaps you ought to look at what a society that eats a Veget diet looks like.

History shows that in a large portion of the far east meat or protein of any sort was a rare event up until the end of WWII. Inhabitants of those countries on the whole were a lot smaller than their European and American counterparts.

The change wasn't as pronounced in the first Generation after WWII but in the second and third there has been a marked change.

And really if animals could talk they'd say, no more cereal please, let me have a burger, fried chicken and cod fish cakes

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

You are slightly confused about vegetarian lifestyles. We do not lack for protein in a balanced diet. The example you gave was not a balanced diet for those people.

[Unclefred]

Why does this group feel that they can spout " facts and studies" that are valid, but because my facts and studies disagree with your beliefs, mine are invalid?

Is this once again the same hypocrisy you accuse us of?

You got a frog in your pocket?

[Sarge7402]

You are slightly confused about vegetarian lifestyles. We do not lack for protein in a balanced diet. The example you gave was not a balanced diet for those people.

No I'm not confused about a darned thing. I'm just stating evidence I saw with my own two eyes not some poppy cock read from some dingbat's book.

But hey just look at germany 1939 - 1945. Real great ideas (just like your''s ) and the out come was not pretty for them or the people they used to staff their slave labor camps

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

If you saw it, write a book. Otherwise, it's simply one lone observation. A singularity.

We're you alive, an adult during 39-45? If not, you're reading history written by the winner. You know, propaganda to justify violence.

[Gambit]

you are unintelligible .

unintelligible?
ok you ****ing ignoramus cocksmoker
being only a humbled man who has only that of a 8th grade education with both visual dyslexia and dyspraxia with rapid thought disorder and gone to a public inner city school in NY didn't help much as well
when you read my post you with your so called great intellect should be able catch a few glitches in my phrases easily. which you did not
you was being a grammar nazi to missed out on great knowledge that I presented before you as proof why veganism is more harmful to the genetic makeup of a human being

now when it comes to my typing, many times I don't see the flaws once so ever do my disabilities
my speech pattern is a polar opposite of that of my writing
have you notice at times I have used uncommon words?
hack even my forum name should be a clue on my intellect
higher education dose not always mean you are smart. todays kids have great education, but they cant tell you what started the civil war too begin with
or how many slave owners in America that was not white. I remember one time when asked who was anthony Johnson? they didn't even know he was the first slave owner in America.
"how history is lost in the book of those who don't read them" do you know where that quote came from? bet you wont fine out even with the internet

I gone with the name Gambit for a reason.
when you think you have all the answers , i'll come and change the questions

i seen you writing and phrasing before. its why i question if you are not one of us being a smarty pants to get us wild up
not being ban is a clue. also RunNgun was banned then unbanned fast at the start i believe, im sure i am wrong there on that

the whole profile of being based out of Berkeley and socialist and veganism is saying something

maybe i suffer from grandiose delusions

so what is everyone eaten today for dinner? im having roasted chicken with carrots and potatoes
tomorrows dinner i think ill make stuffed cabbage

I'm playing muslim and hijacking this thread!

[Gambit]

did you all know Hitler became a full vegetarian 2 years before the end of his fall?
he also was also very anti-animal abuse
just wanted to share some history

[Sarge7402]

Two nations of 100+ and 35+ million are a lone observation. No skippy they are that many observations witnessed by one individual.

As to writing, I do thank you very much.

So now you'd have us believe that the people of germany weren't on starvation diets, and that there were no forced labor camps or concentration camps set up by the Nazi's just cause they lost and we won?


So you've got to tell me is it the water or the environment that gives you folks from out there that weird point of view

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Dear gambit, I was referring to your profanity laden statements. As your last explosive lecture did not contain so many that were censored your phrasing came across much more clearly.

A biglyest improvement.

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

And Sarge, calm down. You get yourself so worked up. Perhaps it's something in your water that caused this unbridled anger

[hawgrider]

So who's dingleberry are you?

[Coastie dad]

I swear, if I wasn't busy dealing with this stolen truck issue, I'd tear his ass for him.

[The Real McCoy]

What in the hell is this horeshit! I don't post much but I do come to this website for information. I log on tonight only to find we've been infiltrated by faggots. Why the **** am I seeing a being a vegetarian thread here? Who is this cocksmoker wasting air with this crap? If this is the way this site is going maybe we all need to put on pink tutus and lather each other up with lotion and then shove twinkies up are asses.

You should all be ashamed of yourselfs for putting up with this bull puckey!

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Welcome, Mr McCoy. I see you are heavily into red meat and caffeine.

You have also apparently been skipping your cabbage water colonics, judging by your anger.
I suggest instead of Twinkies you use something more cleansing and refreshing. You may find your life partner more eager to enjoy your company.

[inceptor]

In the beginning, God made us vegans.

Genesis 1:29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

That lasted up to the time of Noah. It worked out pretty well for the vegans, didn't it? Even back then being a vegan made you a self centered, perverted, egotist. So God decided to wipe the slate clean and start over.

So after the flood God said:

Genesis 9:3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

And God has not had to wipe out the entire world since then.

Things that make you go HMMMM............

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

I've read that book. I keep it right next to my Grimm's Fairy Tales. I like to group my books by genre.

[Sparkyprep]

Ok. Since you don't seem to be a religious man, I will make an argument, since I am not particularly religious either. Eating meat is widely believed in scientific circles to be the exact reason the humans rose to be the dominant species on this planet. The consumption of fat and protein rich meat is what fueled the rapid evolutionary growth of our brains. Neurons, the type of cell that makes up our nervous system, are made of modified fat and protein. That is, our bodies make nerve cells out of fat and protein. While many plants are able to provide fat and protein, they simply can not provide enough to create or maintain a healthy nervous system without extreme measures taken in our dietary needs. Most vegetarians suffer from serious vitamin, protein, and fat deficiencies. This is not because it is impossible, but because it requires vegetarians to carefully monitor and adjust their dietary intake to overcome these deficiencies. People can survive in outer space without an atmosphere through extreme scientific effort, but that doesn't mean it is natural. Our physiology is designed for us to be omnivores. It is possible to survive as vegetarians, but that doesn't make it natural, or inherently "healthy".

[Sparkyprep]

I would like to add, if vegetarians hate meat so much, why do they keep trying to make things out of plants that taste and look like meat?

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Those "vegetarians " are only seeking to draw attention and gain acceptance. Take RunNgun for example. He claimed to be a liberal, but it was only a passing stage for him. He wanted to gain acceptance from his friends, so he put on a good act for them.

Many vegetarians are the same way. Those of us truly dedicated to the lifestyle balance our diets to compensate for the lack of protein. At 6'4, 165 pounds, I'm in good health. My skin doesn't become "ashy" like other AA men, nor do I have trouble with my hair and nails.

As a matter of fact, I have to use less moisturizer and conditioners than my partner does to keep her hair soft, and blondes are usually known for soft hair.

[Sparkyprep]

:feedtroll:

[The Real McCoy]

Welcome, Mr McCoy. I see you are heavily into red meat and caffeine.

You have also apparently been skipping your cabbage water colonics, judging by your anger.
I suggest instead of Twinkies you use something more cleansing and refreshing. You may find your life partner more eager to enjoy your company.

Son you don't know the first thing about anger. You ain't talking to the other dipshits around here and I ain't going to pull any punches. Sure I'm angry. Because I have to deal with people the likes of you. I know exactly who you are Mr. Smartypants know it all. So you went to college and you're barely out of diapers yet you seem to have all the answers. Boy I was stomping piss ants like you when you was just a trickle at the end of your daddy's dick. In fact I bet you ain't even got a daddy anymore. Probably left your momma and you was raised by a single parent. That would explain a lot, especially why you probably sit down to piss.

How dare you judge my eating habits. Of course I like red meat and caffeine, any REAL man would. While you're at the store wondering which rice cake completes you I catch, kill, skin and eat my red meat. I also carry a gun. Does that trigger you sweetie pie? You go ahead a make your vegetable burgers and drinking seaweed slushies. I don't give a damn what you do. This here is America and if you want to prance around acting like a ballerina you go right ahead. Just don't do it around me and don't do it on a website I have come to enjoy.

One last thing. My life partner, as you like to call it, is my dear wife who passed nearly 12 years ago. You mention her again and I'll come straight through this computer and knock you back to that fairyland you came from.

[OSFG]

Jesus Christ...when are you people gonna see....

Sock puppet and supposed friends making a mockery of us.

Just let it go.....like a bag of bricks buddy...set it down and walk away.


Thats far enough fellas... ban it and put it behind us.

[Coastie dad]

His fun dun run out.



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[TJC44]

His fun dun run out.

5496

^^THIS^^ :potd: