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RWalls
10-05-2014, 08:35 PM
Been looking this year since last year my little propane heater didn't work well during the ice storm and my furnace crapping out.
Today on crags list I got a 23,000 BTU kerosene furnace in the box for $40! Good prep for the coming ebola outbreak.

I took it out and assembled it, of course I had to get two new C batteries as the ones that came with it were dead.

854

Coppertop
10-05-2014, 09:49 PM
That is a good deal

Sarge7402
10-06-2014, 05:02 AM
Just remember to keep a good fresh air supply going as this is an unvented heater and CO will build up in a tightly closed area

RWalls
10-06-2014, 06:18 AM
Just remember to keep a good fresh air supply going as this is an unvented heater and CO will build up in a tightly closed area

I was thinking of it being used in my great room/dining room/kitchen which is about 600 sq ft with a vaulted ceiling. I hope thats a good enough area. My propane heater has a low oxygen cut-off but nothing fancy on this one.

Baglady
10-06-2014, 08:23 AM
I used to have one just like it. Worked good. Just have to get used to the smell of the kerosene.

Innkeeper
10-06-2014, 09:29 AM
sounds like a great deal.

RWalls
10-06-2014, 12:12 PM
I used to have one just like it. Worked good. Just have to get used to the smell of the kerosene.

From what I've read online this model is one of the most sought after because there's almost no odor. I took it apart last night and there's a brand-new wick in there. Going to fire it up tonight and do an odor test.

MI.oldguy
10-06-2014, 01:36 PM
We have one my BIL gave us some years ago,he used it for his main heat for 2 years.we bought some kind of wick treatment stuff from wallyworld to pour in with new 1k.burned it off and emptied the tank,sitting for shtf or power outage.these are nice heaters.leave a window cracked though.evidently the wicks get waxed up and smoke really bad if you dont treat them.

RWalls
10-06-2014, 07:11 PM
We have one my BIL gave us some years ago,he used it for his main heat for 2 years.we bought some kind of wick treatment stuff from wallyworld to pour in with new 1k.burned it off and emptied the tank,sitting for shtf or power outage.these are nice heaters.leave a window cracked though.evidently the wicks get waxed up and smoke really bad if you dont treat them.

Are you talking about that stuff that smells like pine?

TJC44
10-07-2014, 10:11 AM
Even in a good sized room, you still want to have fresh air circulation. Kero is still a fossil fuel and creates deadly gasses. Check the batteries in your CO detector.

TJC

Baglady
10-07-2014, 10:27 AM
We have one my BIL gave us some years ago,he used it for his main heat for 2 years.we bought some kind of wick treatment stuff from wallyworld to pour in with new 1k.burned it off and emptied the tank,sitting for shtf or power outage.these are nice heaters.leave a window cracked though.evidently the wicks get waxed up and smoke really bad if you dont treat them.Now that you mentioned it, I remember the obnoxious smoke when you first light it. Good advice to open a window.

MI.oldguy
10-07-2014, 10:58 AM
Are you talking about that stuff that smells like pine?

No, it was kleen strip brand.maybe kinda like pine.but I saw a brand at menards that had several different scents called 21st century,a08,dont know if you have a menards down south where you are but,someone may have the a08 brand or the wallys kleenstrip,that was near the heater display with the gallons of 1k.

RWalls
10-07-2014, 11:06 AM
No, it was kleen strip brand.maybe kinda like pine.but I saw a brand at menards that had several different scents called 21st century,a08,dont know if you have a menards down south where you are but,someone may have the a08 brand or the wallys kleenstrip,that was near the heater display with the gallons of 1k.

We don't have a Menards. We just got a cabelas.

MI.oldguy
10-07-2014, 12:04 PM
We don't have a Menards. We just got a cabelas.

Perhaps Lowes,homo depot,ace hardware.?Menards in the midwest is a big box hardware store btw.

RWalls
10-07-2014, 12:51 PM
Perhaps Lowes,homo depot,ace hardware.?Menards in the midwest is a big box hardware store btw.

I scored some at home cheapo.

Montana Rancher
10-14-2014, 09:59 PM
Been looking this year since last year my little propane heater didn't work well during the ice storm and my furnace crapping out.
Today on crags list I got a 23,000 BTU kerosene furnace in the box for $40! Good prep for the coming ebola outbreak.

I took it out and assembled it, of course I had to get two new C batteries as the ones that came with it were dead.

854

I am really curious

I see you live in Georgia, now cold does it get there in the winter?

As I live in Montana I can attest it gets really freeking cold, but as I've been in Virginia in the December and slept in a uninsulated "sun room" for several days with just a sleeping bag, I am just wondering if spending money on a heater is a good investment?

In my house in the winter we keep it at 55 degrees about 18 hours a day, and then boots it up to 61 degrees to cover showering and a couple hours of comfort when we get home and are having dinner. Yes I admit we have cozy down and fleece comforters on EVERY FREEKING CHAIR AND BED IN THE HOUSE, but I am convinced a person will adapt to cold if given the opportunity.

As a result my natural gas bill which includes hot water and force air heat each year is exactly $720, 2600 square foot home but currently only 2 of us living here, very close to the 45th parallel.

My point is do we need to focus on comfortable or learn to live with what we have? Trust me when the SHTF and it gets a little cold in my house, my wife and I are ready to focus on other things than shivering.

RWalls
10-14-2014, 10:05 PM
I am really curious

I see you live in Georgia, now cold does it get there in the winter?

As I live in Montana I can attest it gets really freeking cold, but as I've been in Virginia in the December and slept in a uninsulated "sun room" for several days with just a sleeping bag, I am just wondering if spending money on a heater is a good investment?

In my house in the winter we keep it at 55 degrees about 18 hours a day, and then boots it up to 61 degrees to cover showering and a couple hours of comfort when we get home and are having dinner. Yes I admit we have cozy down and fleece comforters on EVERY FREEKING CHAIR AND BED IN THE HOUSE, but I am convinced a person will adapt to cold if given the opportunity.

As a result my natural gas bill which includes hot water and force air heat each year is exactly $720, 2600 square foot home but currently only 2 of us living here, very close to the 45th parallel.

My point is do we need to focus on comfortable or learn to live with what we have? Trust me when the SHTF and it gets a little cold in my house, my wife and I are ready to focus on other things than shivering.

I am a Georgia boy, we bitch when it's 32 degrees. Last wringer there were days in the 20's and I think one or two days in the teens. My natural gas bill is $200 max in January.

This heater is definitely not for SHTF more like short term power outages in the winter. If SHTF I would do what I do most of the day now, as I work outside all day, I would dress for the occasion and deal with it.

Deebo
10-14-2014, 11:05 PM
Great price, and a great investment.

Montana Rancher
10-15-2014, 12:15 AM
I am a Georgia boy, we bitch when it's 32 degrees. Last wringer there were days in the 20's and I think one or two days in the teens. My natural gas bill is $200 max in January.

This heater is definitely not for SHTF more like short term power outages in the winter. If SHTF I would do what I do most of the day now, as I work outside all day, I would dress for the occasion and deal with it.


I am a Georgia boy, we bitch when it's 32 degrees. Last wringer there were days in the 20's and I think one or two days in the teens. My natural gas bill is $200 max in January.

This heater is definitely not for SHTF more like short term power outages in the winter. If SHTF I would do what I do most of the day now, as I work outside all day, I would dress for the occasion and deal with it.

I really don't expect you pussies in Georgia to really understand my point, Really?, you spend $200 a month heating in January where I live in substantially lower temperatures and spend $100?

http://weatherspark.com/averages/30955/1/Missoula-Montana-United-States

I realize part of it is that we expect lower temperatures and insulate for it, but that is really a paper tiger as you should expect HIGHER temperatures and insulate for it!

Your only upside is that if you could possibly drag me down to GA in the summer I would die from heat stroke, so you have me there.

RWalls
10-15-2014, 06:03 AM
I really don't expect you pussies in Georgia to really understand my point, Really?, you spend $200 a month heating in January where I live in substantially lower temperatures and spend $100?

http://weatherspark.com/averages/30955/1/Missoula-Montana-United-States

I realize part of it is that we expect lower temperatures and insulate for it, but that is really a paper tiger as you should expect HIGHER temperatures and insulate for it!

Your only upside is that if you could possibly drag me down to GA in the summer I would die from heat stroke, so you have me there.

That's what I'm saying, I turn into a redneck-sicle. If we get 1/4" of snow people go full retard and the governor declares a national emergency and everyone sleeps in the car and blames the government for their failure.

I got a buddy from Minnesota and he runs around in shorts all winter.

It's not the heat down here in the summer, it's the 100% humidity.

MI.oldguy
10-15-2014, 11:35 AM
$200.00 in a january?.wah!...we only pay $71.00 a month in the winter time for NG.even in the polar vortex last winter,small house though,log construction.keep temp at 65,below 32 we crank it up to 65-70.wish the boobs who put in the fireplace in our house would have done a wood burning stove though,don't know why, we gots lot of wood UP here.oh well, one of these days. everbody stay warm,sposed to be a cold mutha again.

omegabrock
10-15-2014, 12:48 PM
we have enough trees and stuff at the new house with some fancy fireplace that redirects all of the heat into the house, hopefully we won't have to turn the heat on at all and just heat the house with the fireplace this winter.

RWalls
10-19-2014, 10:27 AM
$200.00 in a january?.wah!...we only pay $71.00 a month in the winter time for NG.even in the polar vortex last winter,small house though,log construction.keep temp at 65,below 32 we crank it up to 65-70.wish the boobs who put in the fireplace in our house would have done a wood burning stove though,don't know why, we gots lot of wood UP here.oh well, one of these days. everbody stay warm,sposed to be a cold mutha again.

You could always add a wood stove insert to the fireplace.

Montana Rancher
10-19-2014, 10:08 PM
Been looking this year since last year my little propane heater didn't work well during the ice storm and my furnace crapping out.
Today on crags list I got a 23,000 BTU kerosene furnace in the box for $40! Good prep for the coming ebola outbreak.

I took it out and assembled it, of course I had to get two new C batteries as the ones that came with it were dead.

854

I am always amazed at people buying "heat" when they live in an area that rarely gets below freezing.

For the price of a few second hand blanket you will get as much comfort as this could provide and the upside is the blankets don't run out of fuel.

RWalls
10-20-2014, 08:01 AM
I am always amazed at people buying "heat" when they live in an area that rarely gets below freezing.

For the price of a few second hand blanket you will get as much comfort as this could provide and the upside is the blankets don't run out of fuel.

It goes both ways, I'm always amazed when people pass out in 95 degree heat at 100% humidity and complain about bugs eating them alive. Today at 9am it's 50 degrees and I'm wearing shorts because the high is 70!

MI.oldguy
10-20-2014, 10:52 AM
You could always add a wood stove insert to the fireplace.

Been looking at that,we have the cheaper metal type fireplace with a fake wall around it.I have been talking to some specialists who say no go on an insert.have to check more,they probably want to sell us a bill of goods.

RWalls
10-20-2014, 01:41 PM
Been looking at that,we have the cheaper metal type fireplace with a fake wall around it.I have been talking to some specialists who say no go on an insert.have to check more,they probably want to sell us a bill of goods.

So you got worthless gas logs and no real flue. Yes to make that an insert would be pricey.

MI.oldguy
10-21-2014, 10:53 AM
So you got worthless gas logs and no real flue. Yes to make that an insert would be pricey.

No,no gas logs.real steel.burns wood.double wall pipe.the fools that put it in before we bought the place could have least bought the optional fan set-up though that wires in the bottom and flows heat thru the vents.its just that at the expense that it cost for the firebox and steel chimney they could have put in a real wood stove instead.
this is the exact one we have.

RWalls
10-21-2014, 01:37 PM
No,no gas logs.real steel.burns wood.double wall pipe.the fools that put it in before we bought the place could have least bought the optional fan set-up though that wires in the bottom and flows heat thru the vents.its just that at the expense that it cost for the firebox and steel chimney they could have put in a real wood stove instead.
this is the exact one we have.

If you did the work you could convert it for not too much money and maybe a weekend and a day of you are handy.

Pauls
10-21-2014, 03:52 PM
The circulation fans are really over priced. I had to replace on in my sister's fireplace and it cose just over $130. I think you could probably use a couple of bathroom vent fans and save a bundle. They aren't exposed to high temperatures and don't need to move a lot of air - in fact if they move too much it hasn't time to heat the air. Just find the quietest fan for the smallest room size and wire them in using high temp wiring (like what is used in a stove). The only hard part would be to fabricate a baffle to adapt the fan to the duct work in the fireplace.

shootbrownelk
10-23-2014, 09:41 AM
I used to have one just like it. Worked good. Just have to get used to the smell of the kerosene.

Yes Baglady, the kerosene heaters do indeed stink. But if you drive a diesel truck you'll be immune to it.

Reptilicus
10-23-2014, 09:06 PM
Didn't they use to call cheap heaters "Saturday night specials"?

adrowan
10-24-2014, 07:15 AM
I installed a ceiling fan/light in the fireplace room. If I turn it on low, with it pulling air up, I have to close off the bedrooms because it heats the whole dang house.

omegabrock
10-24-2014, 09:50 AM
We have an insert In our fireplace. Apparently the blower on it can easily heat the entire house as long as you keep the fire going (we finally closed, and moved in) so I'm looking forward to winter actually.

Baglady
10-27-2014, 12:15 AM
Yes Baglady, the kerosene heaters do indeed stink. But if you drive a diesel truck you'll be immune to it.We have a diesel truck. Had it for over 10 yrs. Still hate the gagging smell when you first start it and let it idle.
My Hubby knows to park it way away from the house. lol

Imaexpat2
11-01-2014, 11:48 AM
I used a similar model in Japan as my only source of heating for 12 years. Other than the smell of kerosene which is mainly when you first light it up and then again when you shut it off its pretty workable. To address the CO2 issue we cracked a window when in use and shut if off when we were asleep. We went through about 5 gallons of kerosene a week IIRC. What I like about it the most was we kept a metal coffee pot on the top of it to keep heated water since I was a big tea drinker, but it also came in handy for ramen noodle, instant soups and what not as well. Good things to have around when its cold outside!