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Admin1
12-20-2014, 01:12 PM
Ok let's say that a newb just started prepping and had about $1000 to get the ball rolling.

Let's say this person doesn't have a huge income and they want to kickstart their prepping with essentials.

Let's say this newb knows you have a preparedness mindset and comes to you for your insight on a plan of purchase.

Let's say for poops and giggles the person has a firearm maybe a .38 revolver and a .22lr like a 10/22 with 50 rounds of .38 and 200 rounds of .22lr, some canned goods stored, a few cases along with some bottled water but that's it. Where would you tell them to start?

Sockpuppet
12-20-2014, 01:13 PM
Rich Bryant's book.

http://nofema.com/

Inor
12-20-2014, 01:51 PM
I would start with a GHB. Then if there is any money left over, it depends on the time of year. If it is in the fall when food is cheapest, I would start on some water and food. If it is spring or summer when food is more expensive, I would go with water and bullets. Just my 2 cents.

Sparkyprep
12-20-2014, 01:55 PM
Water, food, and shelter is more important than weapons. Only after you are comfortable in these areas, should you look into some self defense. I started with a get-home-bag, and started stockpiling some food.

pheniox17
12-20-2014, 04:07 PM
First thing I tell everyone, CHANGE YOUR SHOPPING HABITS!!!!

Aim for 8 days worth of food every time you goto the supermarket... And do shopping weekly (this both saves $$ and increase stockpiles before you even touch the $1000)

And start researching the primary topics that brought you to prepping, this is also extremely important, so you don't go in blind

Now look at your $1000, what do you NEED first?? Would be a bug in kit, (some guys call it a storm kit,others a black out kit, the principles are the same)

A solid bag/toolbox/container to store items in, water resistant preferred
A crank/bat radio (good quality)
A stash of good quality batteries
A good quality torch (led lenser for example)
A gas cooker/burner
A camping kettle/billy
A camping frypan (or a frypan purchased to be used on this gas cooker)
Gas for burner (get at least 8 to start, with coffees and cooking you get around 6 days worth)
At lesat a week worth of store bought water
At least a week worth of food (long life)

Then a get home kit, what you need to get you home, dont need much its purpose is to gef you home nothing more, go a little cheap if you have to.. And join forums like the otp, ausprep ect

jeff70
12-20-2014, 07:24 PM
It would depend on whether they plan to bug out or hunker down,

jeff70
12-20-2014, 07:26 PM
First thing I tell everyone, CHANGE YOUR SHOPPING HABITS!!!!

Aim for 8 days worth of food every time you goto the supermarket... And do shopping weekly (this both saves $$ and increase stockpiles before you even touch the $1000)

And start researching the primary topics that brought you to prepping, this is also extremely important, so you don't go in blind

Now look at your $1000, what do you NEED first?? Would be a bug in kit, (some guys call it a storm kit,others a black out kit, the principles are the same)

A solid bag/toolbox/container to store items in, water resistant preferred
A crank/bat radio (good quality)
A stash of good quality batteries
A good quality torch (led lenser for example)
A gas cooker/burner
A camping kettle/billy
A camping frypan (or a frypan purchased to be used on this gas cooker)
Gas for burner (get at least 8 to start, with coffees and cooking you get around 6 days worth)
At lesat a week worth of store bought water
At least a week worth of food (long life)

Then a get home kit, what you need to get you home, dont need much its purpose is to gef you home nothing more, go a little cheap if you have to.. And join forums like the otp, ausprep ect

That is a good list of basics, I might steal it for people that ask where to start.

OSFG
12-20-2014, 07:37 PM
I agree that a fairly decent GHB or BOB would always be a good initial investment then depending on what this person expects to happen, either procure those things that would enable basic survival and living outdoors, sleeping bag, shelter, traps, snare making material, fishing equipment, knife, etc, or if it's more a BI situation, improve upon food water stores and look at power and cooking preps. a generator perhaps.

If it's the Zombie-pocalypse then get more ammo and a crossbow and some darts for it.

Sockpuppet
12-20-2014, 07:56 PM
As I keep reiterating, one has to prioritize to their own needs:

1. 3 seconds without an effective means of protection
2. 3 minutes without air
3. 3 hours without shelter or otherwise protection from the elements
4. 3 days without water
5. 3 weeks without food

Prioritize their resources and develop a timeline to accomplish his or her preparedness goals.

Sparkyprep
12-20-2014, 07:59 PM
Where do you get the "3 hours without shelter"? I have spent 24 hours on an island, with no shelter, with on and off rain. Humans are a little more resilient than that.

RWalls
12-20-2014, 10:47 PM
Yeah, the whole 3 hour thing isn't realistic, every day I spend more than 3 hours without shelter.

Sockpuppet
12-20-2014, 11:48 PM
Where do you get the "3 hours without shelter"? I have spent 24 hours on an island, with no shelter, with on and off rain. Humans are a little more resilient than that.


Yeah, the whole 3 hour thing isn't realistic, every day I spend more than 3 hours without shelter.

It really has more to do with the homeostasis of body temperature when exposed to an extreme climate. However, the rules are fairly common and accepted for survival, as demonstrated by the following web addresses, just on page 1, when simply performing a web search of the "Rule of 3s".

http://www.survivorjane.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=63:the-survival-rules-of-three&catid=34:survivor-gear&Itemid=64

http://www.ruleof3survival.com/

http://www.backcountrychronicles.com/wilderness-survival-rules-of-3/

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blog/2006/12/wilderness-survival-rule-of-threes_07.html

http://outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/1023/is-the-rule-of-3-proven-for-food

http://www.wildernesscollege.com/basic-survival-skills.html

http://theparacordsurvivalproject.com/2011/03/the-rule-of-3s/

http://azchipka.thechipkahouse.com/survival-rules-3/10405/

http://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-preparedness/survival-priorities-the-rule-of-three_01092010

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/essential-preppers-guide-packing-bug-out-bag/

Coppertop
12-21-2014, 08:03 AM
Where do you get the "3 hours without shelter"? I have spent 24 hours on an island, with no shelter, with on and off rain. Humans are a little more resilient than that.

I have heard that many times. I think it refers to in-climate weather. A wind break, an igloo, a pile of leaves, even proper clothing or a fire would go into this category. If it's 40 degrees out in your part of the world, and you were pushed out of your house with nothing but your undies on, how long until your body shuts down from the cold? I think that is what the "3 hours without shelter" refers to.

RWalls
12-21-2014, 08:37 AM
So basically, my clothes are my shelter, if you threw me outside naked I would die in 3 hours? :click4naked:

Sockpuppet
12-21-2014, 09:04 AM
So basically, my clothes are my shelter, if you threw me outside naked I would die in 3 hours? :click4naked:

I'm not sure if you would die, at least not initially........but think about the ability of your body to protect yourself against the sun rays, or insects/bugs, temperature extremes outside of 65 to 80 degrees Fahrenheit, etc.

Without some type of shelter......one good sun burn......frostbite.......etc.........can lead to cellulitus, necrosis, sepsis.....and if not subsequently having the protection against that environment and treatment: Death.