Most unusual item in bug out bag?

[Kfilly]

What is the most unusual item in your bug out bag? What do you plan on using it for if it is not self evident?

I have two halves of a flexible cutting board. I bought a set of multicolored ones from Amazon. I placed two different colored halves in my bag. One is for skinning animals/cleaning fish and the other is a makeshift plate. They are lightweight and can be bent to the contour of my bag. I can wipe them clean and sanitize them over a little smoke for reuse. I can bend and use it carry small items (like twigs for my bio-stove, berries, etc.). I can use them as a windscreen for fire starting. I can use it as a work station for cleaning my firearm so I do not lose small parts.

Your turn.

[hawgrider]

Mini sewing kits

[RubberDuck]

I added a ***** numbing gel to my med kit....It's not for E.D.
either.
It's powerful an will numb any skin not just your junk so will make stitching a little les painful

[hawgrider]

I added a ***** numbing gel to my med kit....It's not for E.D.
either.
It's powerful an will numb any skin not just your junk so will make stitching a little les painful

Whiskey and a bullet will work Lol

[Arklatex]

Flask of Everclear. It's good in a trangia stove, use in place of rubbing alcohol for medical, can make tinctures if you know what you're doing, or you could get wasted on it if you wanted to.

[Baglady]

Plastic. I have some small pieces, maybe 12" - 16" square. Many uses, including water collection, berries, rinsing anything edible.

[DerBiermeister]

I have a 6' piece of coated heavy gauge wire that is folded into a almost a square shape of about 6" on a side that fits into the inside dimension of my med size pocket organizer, Wire can be used in dozens of different applications.

[BlackDog]

A giant rubber band. At 36" I figure it's got a lot of uses I haven't thought of yet.

Maybe lashing things together, like poles for a portable teepee type tent to be covered with tarp or plastic. Stretch it tight between two tree branches to make a Ridgeline for a tarp tent. Or a clothes drying line. Use it to secure a rain cover for a backpack. And a zillion and one other things.
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[Sparkyprep]

https://countycomm.com/collections/tools/products/grappling-hook?variant=29216544454

Not real sure why I have this, but it looked like it would come in handy.

There is also a tampon in my med kit for bullet holes.

[BlackDog]

https://countycomm.com/collections/tools/products/grappling-hook?variant=29216544454

Not real sure why I have this, but it looked like it would come in handy.

There is also a tampon in my med kit for bullet holes.
Ya never know when ya gotta grapple!
I have the tampons, too. I just picked up a few Celox plungers so I may retire the tampons....but probably not.

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[juskom95]

https://countycomm.com/collections/tools/products/grappling-hook?variant=29216544454

Not real sure why I have this, but it looked like it would come in handy.

I might get into trouble with one of those.

[Inor]

Several pairs of socks and spare tee-shirts. I do NOT like blisters!

[RubberDuck]

https://countycomm.com/collections/tools/products/grappling-hook?variant=29216544454

Not real sure why I have this, but it looked like it would come in handy.

There is also a tampon in my med kit for bullet holes.
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[Jerry D Young]

Lord, I do not know if the board has enough bandwidth to list all the things I have been told are highly unusual in my various kits, including a couple of BOBs.

The game cart probably started 30 years ago.
Heavy shot glass is definitely in this class. As hand hold for fire bow drill.
Lots of stuff in the 'Hardware & Tools' kit part of the BOB.
The Horlick's Malt Tablets are another one that have drawn some attention.

Just a few.

Just my opinion.

[Batou]

Eye cleaning flush. Crap gets in my eyes all the time.

Cotton balls soaked in WD-40. Suckers light easy and burn a long time. Plus they can be used to lube guns and fishing equipment.

[Kfilly]

Lord, I do not know if the board has enough bandwidth to list all the things I have been told are highly unusual in my various kits, including a couple of BOBs.

The game cart probably started 30 years ago.
Heavy shot glass is definitely in this class. As hand hold for fire bow drill.
Lots of stuff in the 'Hardware & Tools' kit part of the BOB.
The Horlick's Malt Tablets are another one that have drawn some attention.

Just a few.

Just my opinion.

Might want to get a small scrap of Corian (spelling) and use a wide bit to countersink a hole for your the rod of your bow drill set up. It is not breakable and should last a long time.

[Gambit]

condoms , lube , small spray bottle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjapUTAgUBY
lube tons of reasons
if its hot weather a small spray bottle can help keep you cooled off with out using extra water

see I am more then just a sick minded person
and I am fixed so I don't need jimmies

[Arklatex]

Cotton balls soaked in WD-40. Suckers light easy and burn a long time. Pulse they can be used to lube guns and fishing equipment.

Never thought of that before, good idea. I might have to give it a try.

[hawgrider]

condoms , lube , small spray bottle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjapUTAgUBY
lube tons of reasons
if its hot weather a small spray bottle can help keep you cooled off with out using extra water

see I am more then just a sick minded person
and I am fixed so I don't need jimmies A condom over the barrel of a smoke pole keeps your powder dry.

[Batou]

Never thought of that before, good idea. I might have to give it a try.

Get a gallon ziplock bag and dump the cotton balls in it. Spray the WD40 onto the cotton till they are yellow. It's best to use the pump spray WD40.

I kid you not, they will burn for over a minute. Great for lighting the grill or fireplace. Pulse they can be stuck to a stick and placed deeper into a fire pit.

[A Watchman]

Mini sewing kits

I just posted a new thread about guys like you!

[Gambit]

forgot to mention trail markers
I plan on making or buying some but odds are I will make my own seeing they are not that hard to make
I plan on making some this coming weekend

[hawgrider]

I just posted a new thread about guys like you!Ain't no nancey boy here but I can sew leather, upholstery, and make repairs to my gear and clothing.

[A Watchman]

Ain't no nancey boy here but I can sew leather, upholstery, and make repairs to my gear and clothing.

Damn good thing you are handy with the grill, or we might have to rent ya out!

[BucketBack]

Ain't no nancey boy here but I can sew leather, upholstery, and make repairs to my gear and clothing.
Bought one like this for two dollar at a grudge sale

It was a grudge too, Biitch was selling off her old man shat while he was on a fishing trip
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEWING-AWL-Leather-Canvas-Repair-Kit-w-4-Steel-Needles-180-yds-of-Thread-NEW-/321284337882

[Kfilly]

Another unusual item I keep in my bug out bag is organic cayenne powder. I use it instead of Quick Clot. The cayenne pepper helps blood colaguate, and it also has capsaicin which is a natural pain reliever. It is also a heck of a lot cheaper than Quick Clot.

[juskom95]

Another unusual item I keep in my bug out bag is organic cayenne powder. I use it instead of Quick Clot. The cayenne pepper helps blood colaguate, and it also has capsaicin which is a natural pain reliever. It is also a heck of a lot cheaper than Quick Clot.

I didn't know that.

http://i.imgur.com/XJ2eKM6.jpg

[hawgrider]

I didn't know that.

http://i.imgur.com/XJ2eKM6.jpg

Should be a thread around here on cayenne pepper as a blood clot.

[Arklatex]

Sounds exactly like something I wouldn't want to try. Anybody here actually tried it?

[hawgrider]

Sounds exactly like something I wouldn't want to try. Anybody here actually tried it?

Why? its not going to light your butt on fire as if you injested it.

[Arklatex]

Why? its not going to light your butt on fire as if you injested it.
Hawg: I got something in my eye and I can't get it out!!

Ark: I heard capsaicin was really good for that. It will make your eyes water and get that crap outta your eye!

Hawg: Noo! That sounds like a bad idea!

Ark: it's ok... It's NOT gonna burn your ass like you injested it...

:D :D :D

[hawgrider]

Hawg: I got something in my eye and I can't get it out!!

Ark: I heard capsaicin was really good for that. It will make your eyes water and get that crap outta your eye!

Hawg: Noo! That sounds like a bad idea!

Ark: it's ok... It's NOT gonna burn your ass like you injested it...

:D :D :D

Lololololol!

Nooo its for plugging up a bleeding wound not blood shot eyes... damn Texans thats funny right there!

[Kfilly]

I didn't know that.

http://i.imgur.com/XJ2eKM6.jpg

Next time you get a small cut you should try it. It really does work. I could probably go for awhile with unusual items in my pack.

[Targetshooter]

eye glasses repair kit , I have three , get them at the dollar store ,

[Kfilly]

INCH bag contents:

-Gen 1 Yukon Hands Free Night Vision Monocle (night navigation)
-Anker 15 Watt Solar Charger
-2 USB battery chargers AA, AAA, RCR 123 batteries (4 of each type in pack)
-Small set up for making colloidal silver (three 9v batteries, 2 PC 10 gauge silver wire, small alligator clips, plastic to hold silver wires)
-1500 rounds CCI High Velocity .22lr rounds
-3 wash cloths (in place of TP)
-Ranger Beads
-Dakota snare wire
-Two 16 ounce soda bottles
-6 ounces olive oil (gun/knife lube, calories)
-Maps of North America
-Dentist tooth cleaning tool (cleaning gun/teeth)
-2 Climbing Caribiners
-Pair of sandals (type that strap fully to feet for river crossings) I removed sandals and now use tropic scuba diving booties (protect feet from fin straps-and cheaper and lighter)

[hawgrider]

-Gen 1 Yukon Hands Free Night Vision Monocle (night navigation)
-Anker 15 Watt Solar Charger
-2 USB battery chargers AA, AAA, RCR 123 batteries (4 of each type in pack)
-Small set up for making colloidal silver (three 9v batteries, 2 PC 10 gauge silver wire, small alligator clips, plastic to hold silver wires)
-1500 rounds CCI High Velocity .22lr rounds
-3 wash cloths (in place of TP)
-Ranger Beads
-Dakota snare wire
-Two 16 ounce soda bottles

I'm almost afraid to ask.. but what are ranger beads?

[Kfilly]

I'm almost afraid to ask.. but what are ranger beads?

They are a dual set of beads attached to paracord that are used to measure distance. One set of beads counts has nine beads. The other set has four beads. The system works really good with keeping track of distance in the metric system. 100 meters = .1 kilometer.

Anyway, the beads work by developing a pace count. The pace count is how many paces it takes to walk 100 meters (1 full lap around a high school or college run track is 400 meters and you could get an average by counting a full lap). Also, practice on different terrain as going up or down hill will affect stride length and pace count. Every time you walk 100 meters, you move a bead on the side that counts to ten (as in tenths of a kilometer). Once you get to your tenth bead, you move one of the other beads to count full kilometers. They count to five kilometers. If you do not like the metric system, 5 kilometers is equal to about 3.1 miles. Ranger beads are a tool that allow you to estimate distance travelled. Distance and bearing equals location. They are cheap and easy to use. There are videos on YouTube that probably describe how to use them better than what I did.

No question is stupid, ask away! It is how people learn. People also might laugh about things I listed as having in my bag. I have those items for a reason, and they serve a purpose. Is my pack perfect? No, I like learning from others, and my pack is always evolving. I got some of my ideas from a YouTube channel called reallybigmonkey1. He makes long videos, but this guy will survive in the bayou.

A picture of ranger beads of the Ranger Beads I bought from a group called Red Vex (something like that) on Amazon. They were less than $10 for a set. They are high quality and made by former veterans with proceeds going towards veterans. The rope used for the beads to slide on is 550 paracord. It is doubled up through each bead. I have a Samsung Note 5 in the picture for scale.

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[hawgrider]

Well shoot! Thats slicker than snot I have never heard of them pretty cool!

[Kfilly]

Well shoot! Thats slicker than snot I have never heard of them pretty cool!

I just posted a better picture of Ranger Beads. Those are the very ones attached to the shoulder strap of my pack. See two posts above.

[Kfilly]

Laminated pamphlets of wild edible plants, edible/poisonous mushroom guide, medicinal plants, tree identification (INCH pack)

[Kfilly]

I went to Wal-Mart's pharmacy and I placed entire small bottles of the following medications inside of separate zip lock bags: anti-diarrhea, Benadryl, generic Tylenol, baby Aspirin. Each bottle was less than $4.

On each zip lock bag I wrote the dosing instructions of the bottle. Each pill serves a purpose. Anti-diarrhea pill is self explanatory. Diarrhea can kill when out in the wild. Benydryl is for serious allergic reactions (epinephrine should be packed for serious known anaphylactic reactions), Tylenol for fever and general pain relief, aspirin for heart issues/pain.

All of those are in packed in my first aid kit.

[Kfilly]

I have a few small drink mixes from Wal-Mart. They are the Great Value brand. I have 8 small pouches of their Energy flavored water drink. Each one contains vitamins and an be used to help mask really nasty water.

[Ricekila]

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[Kfilly]

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I am as ready as I could ever be. However, I am always upgrading my gear/equipment and in search of better/lighter/more durable stuff. I obviously prefer that Trump got elected over Satan. However, our socialist banking system remains unscathed. I see the FED taking actions to destroy the economy during Trump's term. As a result, I am accelerating my preps.

[juskom95]

Kfilly,

You make my gear look inadequate, good information though overall.

[hawgrider]

I'm digging Kfilly's reviews and this thread!

They are a reminder that I have a spring bug out trip coming up and I need to put stuff back in and take junk out and set my pack back up. I keep procrastinating.

[juskom95]

I'm digging Kfilly's reviews and this thread!

They are a reminder that I have a spring bug out trip coming up and I need to put stuff back in and take junk out and set my pack back up. I keep procrastinating.
I had to pull my pack out when my car broke (it was on top of the tools/parts) and I have not put it back in.

That is usually when something bad happens.

[Inor]

I need to go through my pack. I have not gone into it (except to steal the space blankets to put over the plants when we had a freeze) since we moved. I am pretty sure I do not need to carry long underwear anymore.

[hawgrider]

I need to go through my pack. I have not gone into it (except to steal the space blankets to put over the plants when we had a freeze) since we moved. I am pretty sure I do not need to carry long underwear anymore.

Yeah rub it in..

Watch ya don't get a sunburn this year !

[juskom95]

I don't think I ever shared my 'most unusual item,' in my bag. This serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever: A pair of GI Joes.

I've carried them on both tours to Iraq and my time in Afghanistan; my wife sent them to me as a joke once, and they have stuck around for the duration.

[Inor]

Yeah rub it in..

Watch ya don't get a sunburn this year !

Sunburn and windburn are both a problem here. No question about that. I also should also add a snakebite kit and some Benedryl.

Which brings up a question: How long do you think Benedryl will last? My pack just sits in the back seat of my truck so it gets pretty hot in the sun.

[hawgrider]

Sunburn and windburn are both a problem here. No question about that. I also should also add a snakebite kit and some Benedryl.

Which brings up a question: How long do you think Benedryl will last? My pack just sits in the back seat of my truck so it gets pretty hot in the sun.

Good question not sure.
Id be more worried about that 170 degree temp of the inside of a vehicle sitting in the AZ heat on a sunny 120 degree day and what it would do to The Benedryl or other things like triple antibiotic ointment etc. than I would about the actual expiration date of the Benedryl etc.

[Inor]

Good question not sure.
Id be more worried about that 170 degree temp of the inside of a vehicle sitting in the AZ heat on a sunny 120 degree day and what it would do to The Benedryl or other things like triple antibiotic ointment etc. than I would about the actual expiration date of the Benedryl etc.

Although it does not get to 120 degree where we are (rarely above 95 or so), that is exactly what I am worried about. It would suck to get hit by a scorpion only to find out the Benadryl I have went bad due to the heat.

[juskom95]

Although it does not get to 120 degree where we are (rarely above 95 or so), that is exactly what I am worried about. It would suck to get hit by a scorpion only to find out the Benadryl I have went bad due to the heat.

It would probably not 'go bad,' but it might not be as effective. That is the case with old/expired drugs. It is not that they are useless, but that the drugs are not as effective because they break down over time.

[Kfilly]

:beerchug::beerchug:
Kfilly,

You make my gear look inadequate, good information though overall.

Anything I can do to help.:beerchug:

[Kfilly]

Well shoot! Thats slicker than snot I have never heard of them pretty cool!

Oh, I almost forgot. If you interested in getting a set of Ranger beads for your pack, there is a way to estimate how many miles you traveled. For shorter distances, 1.6 kilometers equals 1 mile. However, one can get a fairly close approximation by using the following method: take distance in kilometers and divide that number by two. After getting that result, you add the first number in kilometers to the answer you got above.

For example, let's say you traveled 50 kilometers and want to estimate how many miles you went. 50÷2=25 Then take the first number of kilometer distance (5 in this case) and add that to the answer. 5+25=30. Fifty kilometers is approximately 30 miles using this formula. Fifty kilometers is equal to 31.06 miles in actual conversion. That is not too bad for obtaining a quick estimate.

Note: This only works to 99 kilometers though.

[Kfilly]

In my INCH bag, I carry a comedone extractor. It is a small stainless steel device used to hygenically remove acne. It is about the size of a dental pick. It can also be used to remove ticks. I posted a link to good image of one.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tweezerman-Skin-Care-Whitehead-Blackhead-Remover-Tool-2740-P/661051206?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=5417&adid=22222222227068087364&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=t&wl3=172646590480&wl4=pla-279908933508&wl5=9019251&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=115070462&wl11=online&wl12=661051206&wl13=&veh=sem

[Slippy]

I'd bet that Xerographica or whatever the hell he calls himself, has some sort of masturbation toy in his BOBag.

Just sayin'

[Kfilly]

A dual size make-up pencil sharpener. It can be used to remove wet bark from tree branches to facilitate fire starting.

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[juskom95]

In my INCH bag, I carry a comedone extractor. It is a small stainless steel device used to hygenically remove acne. It is about the size of a dental pick. It can also be used to remove ticks. I posted a link to good image of one.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tweezerman-Skin-Care-Whitehead-Blackhead-Remover-Tool-2740-P/661051206?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=5417&adid=22222222227068087364&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=t&wl3=172646590480&wl4=pla-279908933508&wl5=9019251&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=115070462&wl11=online&wl12=661051206&wl13=&veh=sem

Have you ever tried liquid bandage on ticks? I've done that couple times, since I had that available.

They suffocated and fell off when I peeled the bandage away.

[Kfilly]

I never tried that. I have heard of using petroleum jelly over some other burrowing insects to force them out. I would see I reason why that would not work.

[juskom95]

I never tried that. I have heard of using petroleum jelly over some other burrowing insects to force them out. I would see I reason why that would not work.

I had work to do the next day, so jelly would sweat off but I am a huge fan of liquid bandage.

[hawgrider]

I never tried that. I have heard of using petroleum jelly over some other burrowing insects to force them out. I would see I reason why that would not work.

Read this- suffocating ticks is not recommended.

http://theoutdoortradingpost.com/showthread.php?4882-5-Pieces-of-Bad-Advice-to-Remove-a-Tick&p=53107&viewfull=1#post53107


http://www.wideopenspaces.com/five-pieces-of-bad-advice-to-remove-a-tick/

[juskom95]

Read this- suffocating ticks is not recommended.

http://theoutdoortradingpost.com/showthread.php?4882-5-Pieces-of-Bad-Advice-to-Remove-a-Tick&p=53107&viewfull=1#post53107


http://www.wideopenspaces.com/five-pieces-of-bad-advice-to-remove-a-tick/

It did take about a day+ for the tick to fall off.

[hawgrider]

It did take about a day+ for the tick to fall off.With Lyme disease running rampant I'd want that thing off ASAP.

[Kfilly]

A stainless steel straw. I can use it as bellows for fire starting. It also allows me to shave weight in my kit by not having to carry a cup in my kit. I can also use the straw to drink hot water/coffee before it cools off.

[Arklatex]

A stainless steel straw. I can use it as bellows for fire starting. It also allows me to shave weight in my kit by not having to carry a cup in my kit. I can also use the straw to drink hot water/coffee before it cools off.
Interesting. I'm thinking WAY outside the box here... But you could also jab a stick in it and heat it up really hot, and cauterize *sp?* a wound with it.

[Kfilly]

Interesting. I'm thinking WAY outside the box here... But you could also jab a stick in it and heat it up really hot, and cauterize *sp?* a wound with it.

I carry titanium tent stakes for my tarp shelter. I would probably heat one of those instead, and I suppose you could cauterize wounds. As I said, I could play this game for a long time. I would also wrap that stake in cotton or use a Leatherman to hold it while heating it. Good suggestion. That is another reason I like threads like this. People can bounce ideas around.

[Kfilly]

A small toe piece of a pair of pantyhose. I can slide that over my monocular device to prevent sun glare from reflecting off of the glass.

[hawgrider]

A small toe piece of a pair of pantyhose. I can slide that over my monocular device to prevent sun glare from reflecting off of the glass.

Are you sure thats all you do with it ? :biglaugh:

[Kfilly]

Are you sure thats all you do with it ? :biglaugh:

That is all I do with the toe section in my bag. I do wear the rest around my head when I am home. As a word of caution, that does make it harder to drink my morning coffee. :biglaugh:

[juskom95]

That is all I do with the toe section in my bag. I do wear the rest around my head when I am home. As a word of caution, that does make it harder to drink my morning coffee. :biglaugh:

Nothing stops the drinking of coffee.

NOTHING!

[Walter Tyler]

https://www.amazon.com/Tick-Twister-Remover-Small-Large/dp/B00X7072HY/ref=sr_1_4?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1489679451&sr=1-4&keywords=tick+remover

Fer the ticks.

I keep an old 35mm film case with dryer lint and Vaseline for startin fires.

Socks +1

Hi Visibility Vest.
Old ID cards I pick up around places... They dont look like me but with the vest help me pass notice in the strange places I wander thru on my way home.
I got a coupla UP and BNSF... Red Cross... Ameren... US Dept of Ag... and a few more.
My BOB is mostly to get me outa Saint Louis and 100miles south to home... drive it everyday.

[Kfilly]

Nothing stops the drinking of coffee.

NOTHING!

I did not say it stopped me from drinking coffee. However, it is more difficult to drink it that way.

[Kfilly]

A sheet of prayers I wrote down. I don't have a laminator so I used my Food Saver to make a protective cover.

[juskom95]

A sheet of prayers I wrote down. I don't have a laminator so I used my Food Saver to make a protective cover.

There is the adhesive laminating sheets. I used that for my family pictures I took downrange and my 'rights,' card when an MP.

I just found them in a box and they have held up so far great, and they're over ten years old.

[Kfilly]

A four way water key used to open exterior water spigots typically found on businesses.

[hawgrider]

A four way water key used to open exterior water spigots typically found on businesses.

Use them where I work. They are heavy if your counting ounces.

[hag]

Chewing tobacco

[hawgrider]

Chewing tobacco I did that once as a young teenager with some big ole long cut beechnut....

It didn't turn out so good... gulp LMAO!

[Kfilly]

Use them where I work. They are heavy if your counting ounces.

I agree that it is somewhat heavy. However, the ability to access water is kind of important, and this is a tool that allows people to do just that from an atypical source. I am up in the air if I want to carry one as I am only a single person. If I were in a group, we would most definitely have one amongst us. I also have hiking pants that have lots of cargo pockets. I plan on carrying certain items that are somewhat heavy or frequently accessed in my pockets (Leatherman, Altoids Fire kit, compass, etc.). This key could be kept in a thigh pocket. Carrying loads is all about how they are dispersed upon your body. My structural firefighting gear weighs about 70 pounds before I even pick up a tool. However, that gear is distributed across my body, and it does not feel as heavy as a result. I am still not going to win races while in it, but I can move fairly quickly if needed.

[hawgrider]

I agree that it is somewhat heavy. However, the ability to access water is kind of important, and this is a tool that allows people to do just that from an atypical source. I am up in the air if I want to carry one as I am only a single person. If I were in a group, we would most definitely have one amongst us. I also have hiking pants that have lots of cargo pockets. I plan on carrying certain items that are somewhat heavy or frequently accessed in my pockets (Leatherman, Altoids Fire kit, compass, etc.). This key could be kept in a thigh pocket. Carrying loads is all about how they are dispersed upon your body. My structural firefighting gear weighs about 70 pounds before I even pick up a tool. However, that gear is distributed across my body, and it does not feel as heavy as a result. I am still not going to win races while in it, but I can move fairly quickly if needed.

The key would help a urban dweller get out of the area but for me it would be useless. In Michigan there are so many natural water sources it would not be worth the weight to me.

You can also substitute that key by just using and carrying a mutli tool like the Gerber I have that has the needle nose pliers then you wouldn't need the key at all.

[Kfilly]

The key would help a urban dweller get out of the area but for me it would be useless. In Michigan there are so many natural water sources it would not be worth the weight to me.

You can also substitute that key by just using and carrying a mutli tool like the Gerber I have that has the needle nose pliers then you wouldn't need the key at all.

I have seen rural businesses with those types of hose spigots where a water key would work.

[hawgrider]

I have seen rural businesses with those types of hose spigots where a water key would work.

If I'm on foot or not I won't be out in the open let alone trespassing at any business near a road. Jus sayin...

You may depending on what hardware be able to get a plastic version which is much lighter if your counting ounces. Not as durable of course but like I said many of those spigots can be used with the thin needle nose on a Gerber multi tool.

I'm counting ounces in my inch bag so I won't carry one.

It would be a great option for those that don't have a creek, river, lake or stream every half mile like we do in Mi.

[juskom95]

You may depending on what hardware be able to get a plastic version which is much lighter if your counting ounces. Not as durable of course but like I said many of those spigots can be used with the thin needle nose on a Gerber multi tool.

It would not be as durable, but one could get a few uses out of it. I wonder if a 3D printed one could be made lighter, or a skeleton like setup?

EDIT:
The issue I had with my leatherman/gerber with those spigots, was that I ended up stripping off the top of the spigot trying it that way. Maybe a type of socket or plastic, limited use socket? Just enough for more leverage with a pair of pliers, but not the weight of an entire tool?

[hawgrider]

It would not be as durable, but one could get a few uses out of it. I wonder if a 3D printed one could be made lighter, or a skeleton like setup?

EDIT:
The issue I had with my leatherman/gerber with those spigots, was that I ended up stripping off the top of the spigot trying it that way. Maybe a type of socket or plastic, limited use socket? Just enough for more leverage with a pair of pliers, but not the weight of an entire tool?

Needle nose will wreck the spigots... the grounds keepers here trash them cuz they are to lazy to get the key. But if your stealing water who cares?

[juskom95]

Needle nose will wreck the spigots... the grounds keepers here trash them cuz they are to lazy to get the key. But if your stealing water who cares?

I never got the spigot open more than enough for a drip or two over a month period. This was a newer spigot the previous owner replaced and the metal just bent under my pliers.

[hawgrider]

I never got the spigot open more than enough for a drip or two over a month period. This was a newer spigot the previous owner replaced and the metal just bent under my pliers.

We have older buildings ours are easily defeated.


Similar to these-

http://www.geekprepper.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/spigot1.gif


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1sb8qKtnTLI/UXLWtEBbexI/AAAAAAAAUQw/K5AakENBmCA/s1600/Tamper+proof+hydrant.jpg

http://www.jrsmith.com/uploads/fileLibrary/5609qt_lg.jpg

[juskom95]

We have older buildings ours are easily defeated.


Similar to these-


The one on my house is like this:

http://preparednessadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/silcock-key1.jpg

Instead of a square it is rounded now!

I have used pliers on the ones you posted and it works, I wasn't even thinking of the 'heavy duty,' ones, but the cheap residential ones.



I figure I'll buy a sillcock key and if its an issue, I'll ditch it.

[hawgrider]

This is what I think of when I hear "4 way spigot key" these are the heavy ones.

http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q761/hawgrider97/Things/55056f65-fcc9-4b1c-bdba-53150e8384d9_1.14a9147ff67be3b2a797ccaeadf1af3d_zp s2eii8to3.jpeg (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/hawgrider97/media/Things/55056f65-fcc9-4b1c-bdba-53150e8384d9_1.14a9147ff67be3b2a797ccaeadf1af3d_zp s2eii8to3.jpeg.html)

[Kfilly]

This is an old thread, but I just purchased two unusual things for my bug out bag. I added a Tool Shop brand 8" bolt cutters. This is not the best bolt cutter on the planet, and it will not cut locks. It is small, lightweight, and it will cut will I will need it to cut. Anyway, I added this if I have to bug out on foot. I live in area close to a lot of farms. These farms have wire fences that go along the road. If I have to bug out on foot, I do not want to get surprised by others walking on a road. I will carry this bolt cutter so that I can cut a couple sections of wire (or barbed wire), go inside the fence, and walk a slight distance from the road. It will also be good to have a fence as a barrier from others. I do not plan on cutting every strand of wire as I would not want to cause any hardship for the property owner if he has livestock. I also will not approach any buildings, and this will be done just to get away from the road.

The second thing I ordered is a titanium pry bar. I spent a lot more money on this than what a steel one would cost, but it is about half the weight. I want this in the event I have to break into something. I watched a really good video on YouTube by a channel called the Contingency Theory. He recommended sleeping in businesses that are not targets of looters (like office buildings).

Basic rules I will follow

1). Travel at night
2). Sleep during the day in places that are not likely to be searched, examine the area for awhile prior to entering, and go to areas of the building not likely to be searched (attic in abandoned houses, top floor of other buildings if multiple ways down).
3). If following roads, walk several yards away from the road (inside edge of woods, on opposite side of fences).

For anyone who is wondering, the little bolt cutters I found weighs 9 ounces. I thought about carrying other wire cutting tools, but this was by far the lightest one I found. I do not yet have my pry bar, and I do not know the exact weight of that.

[Gambit]

im thinking on adding icyhot with lidocaine
you get sore real quick if you are out of shape and doing a lot of walking

[Kfilly]

im thinking on adding icyhot with lidocaine
you get sore real quick if you are out of shape and doing a lot of walking

I am sure it is a good fire starter too. Take some extra cotton balls......

[BucketBack]

I am sure it is a good fire starter too. Take some extra cotton balls......

I'll use the icyhot on my back, after gathering fire material