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    Quote Originally Posted by juskom95 View Post
    Don't hold your breath on it. Trump supports gun control unfortunately, if the bill reaches him it will be signed.
    “Your Second Amendment rights are under siege,” Trump told the sold-out crowd of approximately 8,000 people who descended on the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center in Dallas, Texas on Friday. “But they will never be under siege as long as I am President.”
    http://time.com/5265969/donald-trump...ention-speech/

    If you are referring to the "bump stock sit down" with Feinstein and crew where he said take the guns first... then you misunderstood what the context was...

    President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights.

    “I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

    “Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

    Trump was responding to comments from Vice President Pence that families and local law enforcement should have more tools to report potentially dangerous individuals with weapons.

    “Allow due process so no one’s rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons,” Pence said.

    "Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court," Trump responded.

    Trump met with lawmakers on Wednesday to discuss gun laws and school safety in the aftermath of a Feb. 14 shooting at a high school in Parkland, Fla., that left 17 people dead.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...process-second

    Im not buying it... This was in the beginning of the "Stormy" news hit job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Tyler View Post
    http://time.com/5265969/donald-trump...ention-speech/

    If you are referring to the "bump stock sit down" with Feinstein and crew where he said take the guns first... then you misunderstood what the context was...
    1 - Trump proposed a "Bump Stock Ban."

    2 - Trump is the originator of the "Red Flag," laws.


    So yes, if it makes it to his desk, he will sign it and the Republicans will cheer.
    "Every person’s life is theirs by right. An individual’s life can and must belong only to himself, not to any society or community, or he is then but a slave. No one can deny another person their right to their life, nor seize by force what is produced by someone else, because that is stealing their means to sustain their life. It is treason against mankind to hold a knife to a man’s throat and dictate how he must live his life."



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    Quote Originally Posted by juskom95 View Post
    1 - Trump proposed a "Bump Stock Ban."

    2 - Trump is the originator of the "Red Flag," laws.


    So yes, if it makes it to his desk, he will sign it and the Republicans will cheer.
    Regarding the red text... how so? evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Tyler View Post
    Regarding the red text... how so? evidence?
    You don't remember, really?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ing/381145002/


    He's pro-gun control, period. One can lie to themselves all they want, but the reality is he is very much a proponent of stricter gun laws and less rights for citizens.

    Accept it or don't your choice, but we all will end up dealing with the insanity.
    "Every person’s life is theirs by right. An individual’s life can and must belong only to himself, not to any society or community, or he is then but a slave. No one can deny another person their right to their life, nor seize by force what is produced by someone else, because that is stealing their means to sustain their life. It is treason against mankind to hold a knife to a man’s throat and dictate how he must live his life."



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    Quote Originally Posted by juskom95 View Post
    You don't remember, really?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ing/381145002/


    He's pro-gun control, period. One can lie to themselves all they want, but the reality is he is very much a proponent of stricter gun laws and less rights for citizens.

    Accept it or don't your choice, but we all will end up dealing with the insanity.
    Schrödinger's Gun Control...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

    You cant be right... yet... and I cant be wrong... yet...

    We wont KNOW until a bill is signed...

    So until then...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Tyler View Post
    Schrödinger's Gun Control...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

    You cant be right... yet... and I cant be wrong... yet...

    We wont KNOW until a bill is signed...

    So until then...

    I hope I'm wrong, but someone would be a fool to plan on a good outcome and to leave themselves unprepared/vulnerable in a bad outcome.
    "Every person’s life is theirs by right. An individual’s life can and must belong only to himself, not to any society or community, or he is then but a slave. No one can deny another person their right to their life, nor seize by force what is produced by someone else, because that is stealing their means to sustain their life. It is treason against mankind to hold a knife to a man’s throat and dictate how he must live his life."



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    Quote Originally Posted by juskom95 View Post
    I hope I'm wrong, but someone would be a fool to plan on a good outcome and to leave themselves unprepared/vulnerable in a bad outcome.
    My boat is packed... accidents happen... Im a preppa...


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