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    Surviving Capitalism

    Now that I'm a full fledged, paid in full VIP member, (Thanks for the suggestion, Bucketback) I have decided I should discuss some prepping ideas with those of you open minded enough to listen.
    You people, while set in your ways, have some reasonably sound ideas but are a little misguided from our viewpoint. Now, before you become irate and attack me just because you don't believe I should have freedom to speak, hear me out.

    You gentlemen and lady/gentleman pride yourselves on being at least somewhat self sufficient. We here at the study group realize one of your fears is that there will be a financial collapse of our system, your EBT card will fail, and the drug and prostitution money you would normally spend on beer may have to be diverted to a subsistence account.

    Granted, this is a very real possibility due to the nature of Capitalism. We all know that corporations build their riches on the backs of the working class. Corporations are for profit entities and their allegiance is to the board and shareholders. Not to the workers who provided the physical labor to build the company up, but to the wealthy people who can afford to be shareholders.

    Now I realize that some of you have shares of stock in a corporation or two. But you are no more a real shareholder of any significant value than my cat who, because I've allowed him a pillow on my futon, thinks he owns part of my apartment. Because of this false sense of security your capitalist masters have allowed you to maintain, you feel concerned that an outside force could topple this shrine to decadence.

    Well, my friends and fellow VIP members, you are correct. Until the American people see the folly of not nationalizing the larger corporations, until the American people finally listen to reason and let socialism take a firm hold, and until we the people finally allow the government to guide these corporations for the good of the nation, we will be under the threats of that black cloud.

    In order to prepare for the inevitable collapse of the economic system due to corporate greed we as preppers must learn to use our assets wisely. A shared economy amongst the neighborhood is the only way we will survive. In the event of a collapse economically, or the loss of our power grid due to an EPM from the global warming we must be prepared to share our stores, to provide for those who have little, and to work for a common goal of a classless society.

    We often here the story of the ants and the grasshopper when preppers attempt to justify their greed. But didn't the grasshopper provide music for the ants while they worked? Of course he did. It was greed that caused the ants to deny the grasshopper his fair share of the food they harvested. It was this same greed that caused the grasshopper to die in the cold.

    So I urge you, if a collapse or catastrophe should occur, bring out your food, your water, and share with others. Give of yourselves so that everyone can flourish.

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    I've got several names for this socialist sack of shit.
    I thought now I'm just too tired to take him on right now. He's like dealing with those kids at work. Thinks he knows and is owed everything.
    I fear the nation I loved may be gone. The best I hope for now is to die with honor in the coming civil war, and that my grandchildren be spared the pain of a tyrannical government.



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    Hello Mr. FartTurd, I hope you dont mind my abbreviating your name but I want to save my efforts for asking questions on some of the points you raised. Also, I'm in the process of passing a 9x5mm kidney stone and am pretty much drugged up so if my questions seems sideways try to go with what I mean instead of what I type. Ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by J. Farthington Turdsworth View Post
    Well, my friends and fellow VIP members, you are correct. Until the American people see the folly of not nationalizing the larger corporations, until the American people finally listen to reason and let socialism take a firm hold, and until we the people finally allow the government to guide these corporations for the good of the nation, we will be under the threats of that black cloud.
    I have a few questions:
    How is that not just trading one overlord for another?
    Who will absorb the lost tax base that was previously corporate sourced?
    As capitalism is based on bottom line, and the exponentially growing government has no bottom-line, eventually citizen tax payers will not be able to support Socialism. From where does the money come then?


    Quote Originally Posted by J. Farthington Turdsworth View Post
    In order to prepare for the inevitable collapse of the economic system due to corporate greed we as preppers must learn to use our assets wisely. A shared economy amongst the neighborhood is the only way we will survive. In the event of a collapse economically, or the loss of our power grid due to an EPM from the global warming we must be prepared to share our stores, to provide for those who have little, and to work for a common goal of a classless society. ... So I urge you, if a collapse or catastrophe should occur, bring out your food, your water, and share with others. Give of yourselves so that everyone can flourish.
    Hell, I thought I knew who you were...but you're starting to sound like TGus. Are you sure you dont live in Boston with plans of planting gardens on your roof and organizing the community?

    I realize you think preppers are greedy but I see it as not being a burden on someone else or on an otherwise over-tapped society. Do you propose that we stop taking care of ourselves and go lay on the State? If we did that, how would you have our taxes to spend?

    Ok, I might have more questions later but I have to go feed the dogs if I can find the door. Thanks!
    Now deferring to the judgement of horses ~ because Truth comes in 30 round bursts.

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    [QUOTE=..........So I urge you, if a collapse or catastrophe should occur, bring out your food, your water, and share with others. Give of yourselves so that everyone can flourish.[/QUOTE]

    Sorry to break your bubble, . . . but had you attended classes that were worthwhile (civics, . . . history, . . . economics, . . . mathematics, . . . ) you would possibly not have the snot nosed asinine attitude you project.

    You would also know that inevitably there is a down turn, . . . a down fall, . . . a crisis, . . . whether man made, weather related, famine, or pandemic, . . . none the less, . . . full blown and country wide if not world wide.

    When that happens, . . . the grasshopper will have fiddled while I worked, . . . and will expect "his fair share" of my bounty. Ain't gonna happen, . . . period.

    AND, . . . there are multiple millions more just like me, . . . many who have much better skills, . . . more refined weaponry, . . . lots of youth, . . . and they also share a very deep seated willingness to continue the capitalism, freedom, and liberty we enjoy, . . . regardless of the sacrifice you may have to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Farthington Turdsworth View Post
    Now that I'm a full fledged, paid in full VIP member, (Thanks for the suggestion, Bucketback) I have decided I should discuss some prepping ideas with those of you open minded enough to listen.
    You people, while set in your ways, have some reasonably sound ideas but are a little misguided from our viewpoint. Now, before you become irate and attack me just because you don't believe I should have freedom to speak, hear me out.

    You gentlemen and lady/gentleman pride yourselves on being at least somewhat self sufficient. We here at the study group realize one of your fears is that there will be a financial collapse of our system, your EBT card will fail, and the drug and prostitution money you would normally spend on beer may have to be diverted to a subsistence account.

    Granted, this is a very real possibility due to the nature of Capitalism. We all know that corporations build their riches on the backs of the working class. Corporations are for profit entities and their allegiance is to the board and shareholders. Not to the workers who provided the physical labor to build the company up, but to the wealthy people who can afford to be shareholders.

    Now I realize that some of you have shares of stock in a corporation or two. But you are no more a real shareholder of any significant value than my cat who, because I've allowed him a pillow on my futon, thinks he owns part of my apartment. Because of this false sense of security your capitalist masters have allowed you to maintain, you feel concerned that an outside force could topple this shrine to decadence.

    Well, my friends and fellow VIP members, you are correct. Until the American people see the folly of not nationalizing the larger corporations, until the American people finally listen to reason and let socialism take a firm hold, and until we the people finally allow the government to guide these corporations for the good of the nation, we will be under the threats of that black cloud.

    In order to prepare for the inevitable collapse of the economic system due to corporate greed we as preppers must learn to use our assets wisely. A shared economy amongst the neighborhood is the only way we will survive. In the event of a collapse economically, or the loss of our power grid due to an EPM from the global warming we must be prepared to share our stores, to provide for those who have little, and to work for a common goal of a classless society.

    We often here the story of the ants and the grasshopper when preppers attempt to justify their greed. But didn't the grasshopper provide music for the ants while they worked? Of course he did. It was greed that caused the ants to deny the grasshopper his fair share of the food they harvested. It was this same greed that caused the grasshopper to die in the cold.

    So I urge you, if a collapse or catastrophe should occur, bring out your food, your water, and share with others. Give of yourselves so that everyone can flourish.
    I must admit I am not quite sold on Socialism yet but you make so very good points. These hairless chimps should be forced to pay their fair share and give what they have to those less fortunate. They also need their guns taken away so the government can do its job and redistribute their prepping wealth without any impediment. The faster we get this sorted out the faster we, as a nation, can progress.

    When we take back the White House in 2020 I think these heathens should be forced to house our Muslim brothers whom are refugees from the wars caused by the Bush dynasty. Maybe then they will learn about inclusion and diversity.

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    First, let me address your chaplain's veiled threats of violence. Relying on suggestions that you have an arsenal and army to combat a peaceful movement for change speaks volumes in support of our claims that you should not be allowed to own weapons.

    Next, there will always be people willing to work and pay taxes. The fallacy that people will just stop working has been regurgitated by capitalist propagandists so often you have come to believe it as fact, yet there is no proof of it. The government will make sure there is a work force always, because it will be necessary for the nationalized industries to continue operating.
    And people as yourselves will always be available to supply a distribution of wealthy because your nature as hoarders cannot be denied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Farthington Turdsworth View Post
    First, let me address your chaplain's veiled threats of violence. Relying on suggestions that you have an arsenal and army to combat a peaceful movement for change speaks volumes in support of our claims that you should not be allowed to own weapons.

    Next, there will always be people willing to work and pay taxes. The fallacy that people will just stop working has been regurgitated by capitalist propagandists so often you have come to believe it as fact, yet there is no proof of it. The government will make sure there is a work force always, because it will be necessary for the nationalized industries to continue operating.
    And people as yourselves will always be available to supply a distribution of wealthy because your nature as hoarders cannot be denied.
    JFT, I have a reading assignment for you. Read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand. It may open your eyes as to why that doesn't work.
    (And it may keep you out of our hair for a few days.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJC44 View Post
    JFT, I have a reading assignment for you. Read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand. It may open your eyes as to why that doesn't work.
    (And it may keep you out of our hair for a few days.)
    Why should I re-read the propaganda that you prescribed? You must be aware, as an educated man, that anti-socialist behavior is a diagnosis in the DSM-5.

    All governments world wide are becoming socialist.
    And for those of you who decry socialism, do you realize that your maintained streets and highways, your emergency services, police department, and such, are all socialist programs? Even your public schools. You decry socialism, yet you partake of it's success every day of your lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Farthington Turdsworth View Post
    Why should I re-read the propaganda that you prescribed? You must be aware, as an educated man, that anti-socialist behavior is a diagnosis in the DSM-5.

    All governments world wide are becoming socialist.
    And for those of you who decry socialism, do you realize that your maintained streets and highways, your emergency services, police department, and such, are all socialist programs? Even your public schools. You decry socialism, yet you partake of it's success every day of your lives.
    Yes, they are, and look at the state of them. Bridges and highways are in disrepair, firefighters are forced to use substandard equipment, and suffer from stations being shut down. Watch the movie "Burn", a documentary on the state of the Detriot FD. The state of the public school systems are even more 'Deplorable'. Social services for the eldery are all but non-existant. Yeah, socialism is SOO F-ing fantastic.
    BAH FUCKING HUMBUG!

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