Bein' vegan (colon cancer and gout are not your friends.)

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Well, since several members of the forum feel I need to be banned because they don't agree with me on my opinions I decided to start one more thread.

I realize most of you are meat eaters. Like socialism is better than Capitalism, vegetarianism is better for your health. Not that eating meat is necessarily bad, vegetarianism is just so much better.

Now, before you sharpen your pitchforks and light your torches, I want to bring these ideas up:

1. Protein rich diets, especially red meat and pork increases your likelihood of gout.

2. That same diet increases your chance of colon cancer.

3. If you are an urban dweller the chance of having a supply of fresh meat dwindles quickly. Vegetable gardens are easily maintained as compared to livestock, and can even be grown indoors.
Several of you have denounced my posting on the bucket gardening, but how many of you had actual suggestions, or had a plan you actually used rather than talked about?

For now I'm going to submit this to you, with the working idea that being comfortable with and accustomed to a vegetarian diet if the trump hits the fan could very well be in your favor.

More tomorrow unless the New York fascist has his way and boots me for having a different opinion.

[Sasquatch]

Well, since several members of the forum feel I need to be banned because they don't agree with me on my opinions I decided to start one more thread.

I realize most of you are meat eaters. Like socialism is better than Capitalism, vegetarianism is better for your health. Not that eating meat is necessarily bad, vegetarianism is just so much better.

Now, before you sharpen your pitchforks and light your torches, I want to bring these ideas up:

1. Protein rich diets, especially red meat and pork increases your likelihood of gout.

2. That same diet increases your chance of colon cancer.

3. If you are an urban dweller the chance of having a supply of fresh meat dwindles quickly. Vegetable gardens are easily maintained as compared to livestock, and can even be grown indoors.
Several of you have denounced my posting on the bucket gardening, but how many of you had actual suggestions, or had a plan you actually used rather than talked about?

For now I'm going to submit this to you, with the working idea that being comfortable with and accustomed to a vegetarian diet if the trump hits the fan could very well be in your favor.

More tomorrow unless the New York fascist has his way and boots me for having a different opinion.

Vegetarianism is great except: Many of the most popular organic fertilizers and soil amendments contain animal ingredients such as bone meal, blood meal, and chicken feather meal, fish-based fertilizers, and manures.

As for gout, Eating a diet rich in meat and seafood and drinking beverages sweetened with fruit sugar (fructose) increase levels of uric acid, which increase your risk of gout. Alcohol consumption, especially of beer, also increases the risk of gout. Make sure you read that sentence again. Increasing your risk of gout is different than actually increasing it. I would guess drinking beverages high in sugars and eating sweets would most likely be the main cause. Sugar is the cause of many ailments.

I urge you to check into the Paleo diet and learn how our bodies have not changed much since the caveman, yet the addition of agriculture is when humans started having more health problems.

It's good to see your resume includes dietician along with all your other credentials.

[rstanek]

People don’t take issue with disagreements, that is one reason we are all here, to exchange ideas, debate, tell a few jokes, and so one, what I have a problem with is when a new person presents themselves as a know it all and starts talking down to everyone, we all including the new people, have something to learn and share, my advice to you is to show some respect and grow a thick skin. On the subject of meat, I am an meat eater as well as vegetables, nuts, and fruits. Eating good food is one of those simple pleasures we all enjoy and when all the above mentioned are consumed in a common sense manner. Also we do it to survive, as far as what is good and what is not. Everyone is different in how foreign material taken into our bodies is handled and processed, so, no magic bullet is going to make all the negative aspects of food go away, just my opinion of course, been here 65 years and I’m still consuming red meat and I will until it’s no longer required......

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.

Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

[rstanek]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.


Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

Yes, we do buy SOME of our meat a the grocery store, we do butcher our own also, do I feel l tree hugging bad about it, not in the least, evolution has nothing to to with us being omnivores, it’s who we were, it’s who were are. FYI, I also shoot grown up Bambi’s, yum.....

[juskom95]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.

Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

No living creature can continue living without either relying on or causing the death of something else.

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[shootbrownelk]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.

Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

I'm from the west. My wife and I have lived on Elk, Deer, Antelope and an occasional Moose plus game birds and waterfowl for the last 35 years. We have bought little meat from grocery stores, except for some pork and chicken. I kill almost everything we eat. I prefer that the game eats the greens and then I kill and eat the game. Ooops, I for got the Trout, Salmon, Walleye that we ingest. As far as I can remember I have yet to kill my first human....so your correlation between killing an animal for food and killing another human being is lost on me. I hear that plenty of humans are shot or shot and killed in Chicago every day....you know, Chicago....Barry Obama's hometown.

[Inor]

Having worked in the computer industry for over 30 years, I have met more than my fair share of vegans. You can call me a an "ist" (racist, sexist, homoist, whatever you want), but one thing I have noticed as an unaffiliated observeror, those vegan pricks reek! They stink worse than the French with their ass smell! Vegans might be perfectly nice people but we will never know because their body odor is enough to gag a maggot!

Hey vegans: take a freakin' shower or eat some vitamins or do something about that horrible smell you all produce!

Until they invent a vegan thing that does not make me smell like a half-rotted corpse (and does not include peas because peas are the work of the devil), I am going to continue to enjoy beef, pork, chicken, some fish, venison, grouse, lamb, etc.

[Sarge7402]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.

Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

Nice going. No we're all not from the mid west. Perhaps you ought to look at what a society that eats a Veget diet looks like.

History shows that in a large portion of the far east meat or protein of any sort was a rare event up until the end of WWII. Inhabitants of those countries on the whole were a lot smaller than their European and American counterparts.

The change wasn't as pronounced in the first Generation after WWII but in the second and third there has been a marked change.

And really if animals could talk they'd say, no more cereal please, let me have a burger, fried chicken and cod fish cakes

[hawgrider]

I'm on a seafood diet. All I have to do is see food then I kill it, then I slice open and pull the guts out, then I skin it, then I chop it into little pieces and wrap it, then I eat it one package at a time.