Bein' vegan (colon cancer and gout are not your friends.)

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Well, since several members of the forum feel I need to be banned because they don't agree with me on my opinions I decided to start one more thread.

I realize most of you are meat eaters. Like socialism is better than Capitalism, vegetarianism is better for your health. Not that eating meat is necessarily bad, vegetarianism is just so much better.

Now, before you sharpen your pitchforks and light your torches, I want to bring these ideas up:

1. Protein rich diets, especially red meat and pork increases your likelihood of gout.

2. That same diet increases your chance of colon cancer.

3. If you are an urban dweller the chance of having a supply of fresh meat dwindles quickly. Vegetable gardens are easily maintained as compared to livestock, and can even be grown indoors.
Several of you have denounced my posting on the bucket gardening, but how many of you had actual suggestions, or had a plan you actually used rather than talked about?

For now I'm going to submit this to you, with the working idea that being comfortable with and accustomed to a vegetarian diet if the trump hits the fan could very well be in your favor.

More tomorrow unless the New York fascist has his way and boots me for having a different opinion.

[Sasquatch]

Well, since several members of the forum feel I need to be banned because they don't agree with me on my opinions I decided to start one more thread.

I realize most of you are meat eaters. Like socialism is better than Capitalism, vegetarianism is better for your health. Not that eating meat is necessarily bad, vegetarianism is just so much better.

Now, before you sharpen your pitchforks and light your torches, I want to bring these ideas up:

1. Protein rich diets, especially red meat and pork increases your likelihood of gout.

2. That same diet increases your chance of colon cancer.

3. If you are an urban dweller the chance of having a supply of fresh meat dwindles quickly. Vegetable gardens are easily maintained as compared to livestock, and can even be grown indoors.
Several of you have denounced my posting on the bucket gardening, but how many of you had actual suggestions, or had a plan you actually used rather than talked about?

For now I'm going to submit this to you, with the working idea that being comfortable with and accustomed to a vegetarian diet if the trump hits the fan could very well be in your favor.

More tomorrow unless the New York fascist has his way and boots me for having a different opinion.

Vegetarianism is great except: Many of the most popular organic fertilizers and soil amendments contain animal ingredients such as bone meal, blood meal, and chicken feather meal, fish-based fertilizers, and manures.

As for gout, Eating a diet rich in meat and seafood and drinking beverages sweetened with fruit sugar (fructose) increase levels of uric acid, which increase your risk of gout. Alcohol consumption, especially of beer, also increases the risk of gout. Make sure you read that sentence again. Increasing your risk of gout is different than actually increasing it. I would guess drinking beverages high in sugars and eating sweets would most likely be the main cause. Sugar is the cause of many ailments.

I urge you to check into the Paleo diet and learn how our bodies have not changed much since the caveman, yet the addition of agriculture is when humans started having more health problems.

It's good to see your resume includes dietician along with all your other credentials.

[rstanek]

People don’t take issue with disagreements, that is one reason we are all here, to exchange ideas, debate, tell a few jokes, and so one, what I have a problem with is when a new person presents themselves as a know it all and starts talking down to everyone, we all including the new people, have something to learn and share, my advice to you is to show some respect and grow a thick skin. On the subject of meat, I am an meat eater as well as vegetables, nuts, and fruits. Eating good food is one of those simple pleasures we all enjoy and when all the above mentioned are consumed in a common sense manner. Also we do it to survive, as far as what is good and what is not. Everyone is different in how foreign material taken into our bodies is handled and processed, so, no magic bullet is going to make all the negative aspects of food go away, just my opinion of course, been here 65 years and I’m still consuming red meat and I will until it’s no longer required......

[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.

Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

[hawgrider]

I'm on a seafood diet. All I have to do is see food then I kill it, then I slice open and pull the guts out, then I skin it, then I chop it into little pieces and wrap it, then I eat it one package at a time.

[Coastie dad]

Ability to make food out of animals is good, but not necessary.
Self reliance is good.

But a self reliant, non violent vegetarian is better.

And don't we all want to "Be Best?"

[Gambit]

studies shown that second generation of vegans are showed sign of having a higher risk of cancer from colon to bone type cancers then those who are none vegans and even vegetarian
this is due to the human body needs trans that comes from higher proteins
also show that people on vegans diets and even vegetarian type diets have shown to have lower testosterones/estrogen . young man at the age of 21-25 have less testosterones then that of a man in his late 50s to even mid 60's, note these young men that did the study where vegans for more then 3-5 years
also the vegetarians also had lower phytoestrogens then that of a human male on a basic diet that has animal meats and fats
vegetarians who have dairy regularly have a higher phytoestrogens then that of those who don't or who are completely vegan
lower testodterones have also been link to homosexuality. how many vegan men you fine out are only into tube steak? more then 35% are gay and more then half will play both sides of the field, women you fine are the only ones who are not as effected with lower sex drive but have found that they don't have a correct monthly cycles or has had longer periods then normal which has led to deaths due to lack of iron/proteins that's needed in bone marrow, blood, liver and heart function
also note humans have canine teeth for a reason

also vegan cheeses and the vegan mayo all have 2 ingredients that's in relations of the glutamic acid somewhere down its family tree
glutamic acid is in a aspartame, and you fine other ingredients in relations to that of anti-freeze

when I am the voice of reason the world is ****ed! when I have to act smart and show what little IQ I have then the whole universe is even more ****ed!
so if this is a sock, you should be ashamed of yourself!

[rstanek]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.


Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

Yes, we do buy SOME of our meat a the grocery store, we do butcher our own also, do I feel l tree hugging bad about it, not in the least, evolution has nothing to to with us being omnivores, it’s who we were, it’s who were are. FYI, I also shoot grown up Bambi’s, yum.....

[juskom95]

Well, knowing that I would encounter reluctance, which is understandable because most of you come from the Midwest and have never been taught differently, eating meat is rather uncivilized.

Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store, you do realize animals are still being killed to provide it, right? So there is still little difference between you and that lion ripping the flesh off a newly killed zebra.

Gentlemen, please, we can be so much more evolved than that. We will never progress to our potential if we retain violent ways. If we can easily kill animals, we can easily kill men, and war is just a step away.

Remember, if animals could talk, we'd all be vegetarians.

No living creature can continue living without either relying on or causing the death of something else.

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[J. Farthington Turdsworth]

Why does this group feel that they can spout " facts and studies" that are valid, but because my facts and studies disagree with your beliefs, mine are invalid?

Is this once again the same hypocrisy you accuse us of?