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    Well, we broke down and got a proper feeder for the steer.

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    The way we have been feeding him is to just buy small bales of hay and break off 1 or 2 flakes, twice per day. The problem is, we have to walk into the catch pen to put it into the feeder I had made. He has been starting to get aggressive with Mrs Inor and I when we go in there. Maybe "aggressive" isn't the right word - he wants to play. But a 180 pound man or a 120 pound woman "playing" with a 700 pound steer is probably not a prudent decision. We can feed him his grain without going inside the fence.

    Now, we can also buy the big bales of hay and save some money too.
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    My uncle in Wisconsin had a bull one time that wanted to "play".

    Full size Holstein, . . . had never been out of his 16 ft square bull pen that he was born in.

    Somehow the latch opened, . . . he bumped the door, . . . it came open, . . . he walked outside.

    Spotted my uncle and came running over to play, . . . uncle did a leap over the 3 strand barb wire electric fence around the loafing area, . . . bull didn't know any better, . . . came straight thru the 3 strand fence like it was not even there.

    Ol dog got him by the nose, . . . uncle got his Winchester 94, . . . and he won the game. Final score: Uncle 1, Bull 0.

    Be careful there Inor, . . . they do not know their strength or your weakness. They can also outrun you by a long shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight55 View Post
    My uncle in Wisconsin had a bull one time that wanted to "play".

    Full size Holstein, . . . had never been out of his 16 ft square bull pen that he was born in.

    Somehow the latch opened, . . . he bumped the door, . . . it came open, . . . he walked outside.

    Spotted my uncle and came running over to play, . . . uncle did a leap over the 3 strand barb wire electric fence around the loafing area, . . . bull didn't know any better, . . . came straight thru the 3 strand fence like it was not even there.

    Ol dog got him by the nose, . . . uncle got his Winchester 94, . . . and he won the game. Final score: Uncle 1, Bull 0.

    Be careful there Inor, . . . they do not know their strength or your weakness. They can also outrun you by a long shot.

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    Holsteins are notoriously mean.

    I have been kicked a few times by cows during round up and it is something I am in no hurry to duplicate if I can avoid it and certainly not with a steer! After you cut their bull parts off, it does settle them down some, but only some and they are still really big strong animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inor View Post
    Well, we broke down and got a proper feeder for the steer.

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    The way we have been feeding him is to just buy small bales of hay and break off 1 or 2 flakes, twice per day. The problem is, we have to walk into the catch pen to put it into the feeder I had made. He has been starting to get aggressive with Mrs Inor and I when we go in there. Maybe "aggressive" isn't the right word - he wants to play. But a 180 pound man or a 120 pound woman "playing" with a 700 pound steer is probably not a prudent decision. We can feed him his grain without going inside the fence.

    Now, we can also buy the big bales of hay and save some money too.
    Hay rings are great time savers, but also saves a lot of hay from being wasted. That's the Idea anyway. Our gelding, Chester didn't get the memo..
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    About a month ago we took Moth (Meat On The Hoof) in to the butcher. He was a little smaller than we originally wanted but the butcher was so busy due to the Chinese virus, it was either take him in when we did or feed him until after the 1st of the year. Even so, we got almost 700 pounds of meat from him.

    Yesterday, Mrs Inor drove to the butcher and got the meat.

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    We sold half of it to a neighbor. So we only kept about 340 pounds.

    Tonight was the big night to try him out. Since this was our first attempt at growing our own meat, we decided to go for the gusto tonight and grill up some ribeyes.

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    Oh hell yeah!!!

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    I am sure part of why they tasted so good is psychological, because we grew it ourselves. But damn! Those were the best steaks I have ever had! They were tender, and juicy and had a MUCH beefier flavor than even high-dollar grocery store meat.

    After doing the math, I figure our supper for the two of us this evening came out to just over $2. It would have been cheaper, but Mrs Inor insisted on having dressing on her stupid salad.

    All in all, this was the best homesteading experiment we have tried so far. We will be getting Moth2 in just over two months. (Fall roundup is the week of Oct 12th.). On the next one, we are going to keep the whole thing because our fence builder, Smiley, is going to be raising several hogs and has agree to trade some homegrown beef for homegrown pork. I think I am also going to pull the trigger on chickens right after the first of the year.
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    I would not drive all the way there for one of those ribeyes . . . .

    But you can bet your sweet tea bottle . . . I'd think about it before I said no.

    Looks like you did all right.

    Neighbor up the street from us gets a couple of Jersey bull calves every year . . . I've got some of one of them still in the freezer.

    I also put a bunch of him in pint jars . . . with the ol' pressure cooker . . . man that is good eating.

    Glad you guys are doing good. Be careful out there on the roundup.

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    The new Moth (the 2021 edition) came today.

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    He is freakin' HUGE! He is at least half again as big as the one we got last year. He is already well over 400 pounds.

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    We probably made a mistake castrating him last spring because he would have made an excellent bull - perfect shape, etc. But it does mean he will make very good steaks too. If he grows into his crank, he is going to be at least 1400 pounds by the time he goes in next fall.

    The only negative is he is quite a bit more hyper than our last one. And with an animal his size, hyper is not a good combination. He has already tried to jump the fence once. Hopefully he will calm down over the next couple days as he gets used to his new surroundings. We are planning on keeping him in the catch pen until Monday so he gets used to where his food and water are. Then we will release him into the pasture.
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    Inor... excellent thread that I’ve followed. We have grown our little patch of Texas by a few more acres and I have considered buying a steer. We do have a small cattle ranch down the street and they run a few dozen cattle in back of our property.

    But my hesitation is that my wife will name it, the grandkids will love it, it will become a pet and outlive all of us. Ugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inor View Post
    The new Moth (the 2021 edition) came today.

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    He is freakin' HUGE! He is at least half again as big as the one we got last year. He is already well over 400 pounds.

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    We probably made a mistake castrating him last spring because he would have made an excellent bull - perfect shape, etc. But it does mean he will make very good steaks too. If he grows into his crank, he is going to be at least 1400 pounds by the time he goes in next fall.

    The only negative is he is quite a bit more hyper than our last one. And with an animal his size, hyper is not a good combination. He has already tried to jump the fence once. Hopefully he will calm down over the next couple days as he gets used to his new surroundings. We are planning on keeping him in the catch pen until Monday so he gets used to where his food and water are. Then we will release him into the pasture.

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