Power Grid Down

[Inor]

Isn't it illegal to have that stuff without some kind of cert? It is half of the equation for anfo. I think it was what that guy blew up the OKC building with. Just curious.

I do not know about the legality. But I know they used it back in the "old west" so it cannot be that difficult to make. And if SHTF, who cares about law, we just need to keep meat and milk cool.

[Jeep]

Not illegal to own or purchase, just don't go buy 2k lbs at once.

[TJC44]

I thought that sounded familiar. Am. Nit. is EXTREMELY explosive when exposed to heat. A fire at a fertilizer plant in'79 or so literally destroyed an engine co. That responded to the call. The blast knocked the chief who was at the gate 1/2 mile away off his feet.stuff is not to be taken lightly.

[Prepared One]

All viable options in the short term. Long term? What is a worry to me is what do we do to ourselves in the short term? It's going to be nasty and many of us, preppers included, won't survive. I sometime question what I am doing....and why at my age. But, I have always been a fighter ever since I was a kid. So that question quickly passes. But, sometimes.........

[Coppertop]

In my case I plan on using the generator to keep the fridges and freezers running until I can get the meat that is in them preserved. Up north we can put fresh meat out side in the winter and it will freeze and keep. As was stated earlier we can get ice blocks made to extend our cooling period but it would take quite a place and a lot of ice to keep things cool here when it's 100 degrees in August. The heat and light are not so bothersome to me right now- Wood stove and oil lanterns - but the loss of refrigeration would suck.

Something I would like to get set up is a battery bank that would extend the time I could run the fridge and extend the generator as I would only have to run it a little while every day.

Thanks

[Jeep]

I saw a guy who keeps 55, 5 gallon buckets full of water, he lives where it gets extremely cold. He uses the buckets to store water but as refrigeration in spring and summer. If he needs water he takes a bucket of ice out of the shed.

[Pauls]

Amonium nitrate is an oxidizer and not explosive by itself. You have to add a combustible product to it.

It is a common fertilizer for commercial and residential use. Potasium nitrate is a better oxidizer and is what is used to make black powder. Potasium perchlorate is the best commercially available oxidizer and as such is more difficult to obtain in any large volumes.

AmFo is commonly used in excavating large amounts of rock from mountains. It is Ammonium Nitrate with fuel oil (usually diesel) in a very precise mixture. You need a high explosive to detonate it - like dynamite or one of the plastic explosives. It is not good for much other than moving a lot of rock in large chunks or making craters in the ground. There are much better choices for explosives though it is economical and easy to get if you are not into organic chemistry.

[Baglady]

And, Ammonium Nitrate is one of the stupid shit ingredients druggies use to make meth/ice or whatever they're calling it.
We use it in our gardening.

[Pauls]

So, you are saying we can raid the meth labs to get our ammonium nitrate to fertilize the garden?