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    @Inor, You have inspired me to look over some of my planes!!! The link you posted let me figure out how old they are.

    One is a type 7, mfg 1893-1899. It needs a good cleaning, rust is just surface, iron is sharp and nice and square, but is in great shape to use as a working plane. I gave it a wipe down and coat of oil. It's been sitting in my tool shed. I think I did O.K., if I remember I paid $40 for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Trapper View Post
    @Inor, You have inspired me to look over some of my planes!!! The link you posted let me figure out how old they are.

    One is a type 7, mfg 1893-1899. It needs a good cleaning, rust is just surface, iron is sharp and nice and square, but is in great shape to use as a working plane. I gave it a wipe down and coat of oil. It's been sitting in my tool shed. I think I did O.K., if I remember I paid $40 for it.

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    $40 for a usable No 7 is a steal! Atta boy!!! Spend a few hours on it and you will have damn good Jointer's plane!

    Just as a reference, here is a new No 7 that is roughly the same quality as yours:

    https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop...?item=06P0771A

    I have a No 8, a little newer than yours, that is calling me to refinish it into a Shooting plane. But before I can start on it, I have to find where I can get some sticky-backed roll sandpaper. It is far too big to work the body on the little piece of float glass I have. I will have to stick some sandpaper to my table saw top to get that one working again.
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    I just finished up my 5 1/4 about 45 minutes ago. It came out better than I hoped it would!

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    There were a couple of scratches in the sole where the previous owner must have hit a nail. They are not horrible and do not affect the usability of it, but they were a little deeper than I cared to go.

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    I figure I have just shy of 20 hours in it getting it cleaned up and tuned. Straightening the iron was the worst. I have over 6 hours just getting it straight before I could even start sharpening it. But once I got it square and got the angle back to 25 degrees, sharpening it was a breeze. I took the primary angle up to 4000 grit then stropped it. I put a heavy secondary angle on it by hand somewhere around 27 or 28 degrees. That I took up to 16000 grit before stropping.

    I intentionally chose the piece of black walnut in the picture to test it because the grain goes every which way. It cuts like butter! Even though it is a Jack plane, I set the frog up as a smoothing plane just to see how thin I could get the shaving. I got it to consistently cut below 1/1000 of an inch. I could unroll the walnut shaving and still read a pencil mark through it!

    The other thing I learned... I initially thought the Cap Iron may not have been original, but once I cleaned all the crap from the inside if it, I discovered the casting was dated 26-3. Thus, it was cast in the 3rd quarter of 1926. So I am thinking it is original.

    The only thing I did not clean as well as I would have liked was the top of the Iron. Once I discovered the Stanley stamping on it, I did not want to take a chance on having that fade. So I just went over that lightly with 400 grit and called it good. If I get bored, I might try some steel wool on it, but I also kind of like the black marks on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inor View Post
    I just finished up my 5 1/4 about 45 minutes ago. It came out better than I hoped it would!

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    There were a couple of scratches in the sole where the previous owner must have hit a nail. They are not horrible and do not affect the usability of it, but they were a little deeper than I cared to go.

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    I figure I have just shy of 20 hours in it getting it cleaned up and tuned. Straightening the iron was the worst. I have over 6 hours just getting it straight before I could even start sharpening it. But once I got it square and got the angle back to 25 degrees, sharpening it was a breeze. I took the primary angle up to 4000 grit then stropped it. I put a heavy secondary angle on it by hand somewhere around 27 or 28 degrees. That I took up to 16000 grit before stropping.

    I intentionally chose the piece of black walnut in the picture to test it because the grain goes every which way. It cuts like butter! Even though it is a Jack plane, I set the frog up as a smoothing plane just to see how thin I could get the shaving. I got it to consistently cut below 1/1000 of an inch. I could unroll the walnut shaving and still read a pencil mark through it!

    The other thing I learned... I initially thought the Cap Iron may not have been original, but once I cleaned all the crap from the inside if it, I discovered the casting was dated 26-3. Thus, it was cast in the 3rd quarter of 1926. So I am thinking it is original.

    The only thing I did not clean as well as I would have liked was the top of the Iron. Once I discovered the Stanley stamping on it, I did not want to take a chance on having that fade. So I just went over that lightly with 400 grit and called it good. If I get bored, I might try some steel wool on it, but I also kind of like the black marks on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inor View Post
    I just finished up my 5 1/4 about 45 minutes ago. It came out better than I hoped it would!

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    There were a couple of scratches in the sole where the previous owner must have hit a nail. They are not horrible and do not affect the usability of it, but they were a little deeper than I cared to go.

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    I figure I have just shy of 20 hours in it getting it cleaned up and tuned. Straightening the iron was the worst. I have over 6 hours just getting it straight before I could even start sharpening it. But once I got it square and got the angle back to 25 degrees, sharpening it was a breeze. I took the primary angle up to 4000 grit then stropped it. I put a heavy secondary angle on it by hand somewhere around 27 or 28 degrees. That I took up to 16000 grit before stropping.

    I intentionally chose the piece of black walnut in the picture to test it because the grain goes every which way. It cuts like butter! Even though it is a Jack plane, I set the frog up as a smoothing plane just to see how thin I could get the shaving. I got it to consistently cut below 1/1000 of an inch. I could unroll the walnut shaving and still read a pencil mark through it!

    The other thing I learned... I initially thought the Cap Iron may not have been original, but once I cleaned all the crap from the inside if it, I discovered the casting was dated 26-3. Thus, it was cast in the 3rd quarter of 1926. So I am thinking it is original.

    The only thing I did not clean as well as I would have liked was the top of the Iron. Once I discovered the Stanley stamping on it, I did not want to take a chance on having that fade. So I just went over that lightly with 400 grit and called it good. If I get bored, I might try some steel wool on it, but I also kind of like the black marks on it.
    That plane is a beauty now, you did a great job. I don't have the free time right now to do that sort of clean up.

    My other planes and most of my chisels are at my other place, all old USA made steel. I'll try to get some pictures of those soon.

    I have a good friend who owns a machine shop that is into old tools too. If I find a old chisel with a damaged edge he can get it back to perfect square, not screw up the temper, or grind off too much of the hard laminated steel cutting edge.

    For the #8, you might try a glass shop for a piece of plate glass. They can take a broken piece and cut it down to a usable size cheaply.

    edit: the plane in the pictures I posted has all the original stampings visible on the metal. Two patent stampings, one a Baileys 1857, the other Stanley Oct 21 1884. The link you posted explained how the Bailey company merged with Stanley in the 1860s.

    That link also had good stuff on other hand tools. I'll have to dig out some of my saws. I've got a ton of those I've got over the years. I took the best ones and had a local sharpening service refurb/sharpen the teeth. Most cost more to sharpen than I paid for them, and now they are better than what you can buy now.

    I need some more axes as I do a lot of work in the woods, have a small lumber mill, and heat with wood too. Trying to find a couple of good large ones that have not been abused. Looking for old: Plumb, Collins, True Temper, Council Tool,.......

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    Mrs Inor scores again!

    I was digging through some more boxes today containing various tools that Mrs Inor picked up for me at yard sales over the years. I came across these two beauties:

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    I remember when she gave them to me but had not thought about them much because I was not working on something that required a large rasp or wood file. But today I was planning my next wood project which will require quite a bit of rasp and file work so I went and dug them out. I got to looking at them more closely and discovered two remarkable things:

    1 - Neither one has seen much use. The rat file was maybe used lightly 2 or 3 times. I think the rasp has never touched wood.

    2 - They are both from Johnson Tool Works! If you are not a wood guy, that may not be significant to you, but Johnson files are the Rolls Royce of woodworking files and rasps. The teeth on each one are cut by hand!

    Thankfully my work schedule is pretty easy this week and I should be done by mid-afternoon each day. So I will spend some time making handles for them. I think I have a short piece of 1" copper that will make a perfect barrel.

    These babies are worth far more than I would pay for a file or rasp. They are strictly luxury items, but damn they are going into my normal tool rotation now!
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    This one is a Stanley. I have no idea how old it is. My Grandfather gave it to my Dad and my Dad recently gave it to me. I remember using these in shop class in high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch View Post
    This one is a Stanley. I have no idea how old it is. My Grandfather gave it to my Dad and my Dad recently gave it to me. I remember using these in shop class in high school.

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    Get yourself a piece of float glass and some automotive sandpaper and you too, can make some awesome tool porn!

    That is a beauty! (I think the link to the site I use to date Stanley planes is on the first page of this thread.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inor View Post
    Get yourself a piece of float glass and some automotive sandpaper and you too, can make some awesome tool porn!

    That is a beauty! (I think the link to the site I use to date Stanley planes is on the first page of this thread.)
    Yes I saw that. I'm going to check it out.

    My Dad also gave me my Grandfathers electric planer. Not as cool as the old school stuff but it is probably circa 80's and still in the box. I'll post when I get a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inor View Post
    I just finished up my 5 1/4 about 45 minutes ago. It came out better than I hoped it would!

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    There were a couple of scratches in the sole where the previous owner must have hit a nail. They are not horrible and do not affect the usability of it, but they were a little deeper than I cared to go.

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    I figure I have just shy of 20 hours in it getting it cleaned up and tuned. Straightening the iron was the worst. I have over 6 hours just getting it straight before I could even start sharpening it. But once I got it square and got the angle back to 25 degrees, sharpening it was a breeze. I took the primary angle up to 4000 grit then stropped it. I put a heavy secondary angle on it by hand somewhere around 27 or 28 degrees. That I took up to 16000 grit before stropping.

    I intentionally chose the piece of black walnut in the picture to test it because the grain goes every which way. It cuts like butter! Even though it is a Jack plane, I set the frog up as a smoothing plane just to see how thin I could get the shaving. I got it to consistently cut below 1/1000 of an inch. I could unroll the walnut shaving and still read a pencil mark through it!

    The other thing I learned... I initially thought the Cap Iron may not have been original, but once I cleaned all the crap from the inside if it, I discovered the casting was dated 26-3. Thus, it was cast in the 3rd quarter of 1926. So I am thinking it is original.

    The only thing I did not clean as well as I would have liked was the top of the Iron. Once I discovered the Stanley stamping on it, I did not want to take a chance on having that fade. So I just went over that lightly with 400 grit and called it good. If I get bored, I might try some steel wool on it, but I also kind of like the black marks on it.
    Beautiful!

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