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    I can’t help but agree with your thoughts and comments. I think you describe it very well.

    In my thinking, The overriding issue is timing and rule of law.

    Rule of law first:. When the SHTF, the left will turn on each other and they will be the ones violently protesting. Conservatives, for right or wrong, will follow the the law and basically take it up the ass. I’d predict a good 2/3 of conservatives fit this model. They are the ones that will give in to limits on 2a and 1a and 4a and others all because of the morality of following the rule of law. Most if not all of the looting and burning and protesting will be from the left against the government, regardless of which party controls the government.

    Timing: the slow burn of inflation and gas shortages and maybe even some food shortages will not trigger mass protesters; just isolated and in democrats cesspools. We saw this in the 70’s with double digit inflation, tight money, fuel and food shortages, and you didn’t see the mass riots. The generations have changed from then to now so It may be different. If we see the protest it will again, be the left/communists. If it is indeed a slow burn into the depth, then it will be at least 10 years or more. Most empires fade over a long period of time. personally, I think this will happen to the US. Fade over time with a series of events that cause riots, etc but nothing dystopian.

    Unless.. there is some type of trigger event and it would be massive. Then all bets are off. No idea what that could be. And it could be something fairly innocuous too but big enough to light the short fuse.

    And speaking of trigger events, you know the best way to get the country united and out of a “depression”? War. I think that is more likely in the very near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piratesailor View Post
    Unless.. there is some type of trigger event and it would be massive. Then all bets are off. No idea what that could be. And it could be something fairly innocuous too but big enough to light the short fuse.
    There won't be, at least not one with enough of an 'oomph,' for the whole nation. We are simply too geographically different and demographically different. Each region/state is likely to have their own trigger events based on their local governors and politicians. What might cause an uprising here in KY might not do much to OH to the north. That is one reason why I say five to ten years, because the triggers/overflows/violence is going to start regionally and the news will downplay it.

    And speaking of trigger events, you know the best way to get the country united and out of a “depression”? War. I think that is more likely in the very near future.
    Maybe, but probably not. I say this because much of the world is seeing the same problems the US is having with Fascism. In Canada, Europe and many other previously, seemingly 'free,' countries they are now admittedly censoring their citizens. The US was/is a major exporter of food and other resources; we can survive on our own, even militarily, against the rest of the world.

    What we're going to see are internal conflicts, civil wars and revolutions.

    'Mad Max,' might be an extreme, but I honestly would not be surprised to see communities drawing in and closing off the rest of the nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red442joe View Post
    The preceeding on this page has been some of the most cogent and precient discussion I've seen on a forum.
    Problem is, too many want to deal with the commies with logic and politeness. Sigh...
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    The thing is if the US implodes/explodes be it economic collapse or something else the rest of the world will catch fire too because everything is too tied up and enmeshed. That may have been good for countries but it also makes all of them weaker too.
    Like the collapse of Rome I think if the US collapse will cause darkness to fall other places hopefully it won't take as long for the world to collect itself and rebuild as it did after Rome. And hopefully it will be the good people who come out of the dark not the evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juskom95 View Post
    Just wait until I get some bourbon in me and start actually expressing how I really feel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by red442joe View Post
    Loosen up and let fly!

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    I really, REALLY, REALLY do not want more attention from the FBI/DHS than I already have.

    That typed, I am not responsible for any statements or predictions I make when under the sweet embrace of bourbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innkeeper View Post
    The thing is if the US implodes/explodes be it economic collapse or something else the rest of the world will catch fire too because everything is too tied up and enmeshed. That may have been good for countries but it also makes all of them weaker too.
    Like the collapse of Rome I think if the US collapse will cause darkness to fall other places hopefully it won't take as long for the world to collect itself and rebuild as it did after Rome. And hopefully it will be the good people who come out of the dark not the evil.

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    What I find very entertaining is that I support and believe in that scenario that the US will still come out of it ahead of the other nations of the world.

    American are very stubborn, very well armed and we have the resources here (and North America) to sustain whereas other nations do not.

    Sure, it would be a big pile of crap, but we would probably be at the top!

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    I was out banging around on the web yesterday and I happened across a news story about the coffee farms in Brazil. Apparently, they are having a bad cold snap there which is killing a lot of the coffee trees. So it seems likely that coffee will be going up in price significantly in the next year or so.

    Since I have not bought any beans for a few years, I thought it might be prudent to just top off our supply of green beans while they are still somewhat cheap. When I buy green coffee beans, I usually buy them 200-300 pounds at a time to get the per-pound price down. They come in 50 pound burlap sacks and do not require any special packaging to store; literally just throw the sacks on a shelf and keep them dry. They last forever without spoiling.

    As I said, the last time I ordered was about 3-4 years ago and I paid around $5.50 per pound for Columbian. Now, it is already up to $7.71 per pound and they do not even offer the 50# bags anymore! (I may call them and see if they can't shave a little more off the price if I order a few hundred pounds, but damn.)

    https://www.coffeebeandirect.com/unr...n-supremo.html

    If you need your morning coffee to be productive, now might be a good time to put some extra back because I think prices are going to get ugly in the next several months.

    Edit: This place seems to have MUCH better prices.

    https://www.coffeebeancorral.com/cat...fee-Beans.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inor View Post
    I was out banging around on the web yesterday and I happened across a news story about the coffee farms in Brazil. Apparently, they are having a bad cold snap there which is killing a lot of the coffee trees. So it seems likely that coffee will be going up in price significantly in the next year or so.

    Since I have not bought any beans for a few years, I thought it might be prudent to just top off our supply of green beans while they are still somewhat cheap. When I buy green coffee beans, I usually buy them 200-300 pounds at a time to get the per-pound price down. They come in 50 pound burlap sacks and do not require any special packaging to store; literally just throw the sacks on a shelf and keep them dry. They last forever without spoiling.

    As I said, the last time I ordered was about 3-4 years ago and I paid around $5.50 per pound for Columbian. Now, it is already up to $7.71 per pound and they do not even offer the 50# bags anymore! (I may call them and see if they can't shave a little more off the price if I order a few hundred pounds, but damn.)

    https://www.coffeebeandirect.com/unr...n-supremo.html

    If you need your morning coffee to be productive, now might be a good time to put some extra back because I think prices are going to get ugly in the next several months.

    Edit: This place seems to have MUCH better prices.

    https://www.coffeebeancorral.com/cat...fee-Beans.aspx
    Tell us about how to roast/process them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juskom95 View Post
    There won't be, at least not one with enough of an 'oomph,' for the whole nation. We are simply too geographically different and demographically different. Each region/state is likely to have their own trigger events based on their local governors and politicians. What might cause an uprising here in KY might not do much to OH to the north. That is one reason why I say five to ten years, because the triggers/overflows/violence is going to start regionally and the news will downplay it.


    Maybe, but probably not. I say this because much of the world is seeing the same problems the US is having with Fascism. In Canada, Europe and many other previously, seemingly 'free,' countries they are now admittedly censoring their citizens. The US was/is a major exporter of food and other resources; we can survive on our own, even militarily, against the rest of the world.

    What we're going to see are internal conflicts, civil wars and revolutions.

    'Mad Max,' might be an extreme, but I honestly would not be surprised to see communities drawing in and closing off the rest of the nation.
    I don't discount outright war in the next few years. China and Russia are moving the chess pieces and are becoming more bold. They are looking at the multifaceted infighting, a country more and more divided, an extremely weak white house and presidency, and a military that is maybe to "woke" for it's own good. Obama, and now his puppet Joe, are exchanging soldiers for PC liberal yes men. Putin already sees a nuclear exchange as winnable and China is building up their military alarmingly fast. China also fits well in Thucydides's Trap scenario perfectly in my opinion.

    If civil war comes you can look for China, Russia, or both to push us over the edge. Civil war, outright war or both, either way, I see war coming.
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