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    Ford introduces North America's largest electric vehicle charging network.

    https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...g-network.html

    https://insideevs.com/news/376886/fo...next-gen-bevs/

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    Some of you naysayers are missing the big picture on Electric Vehicles and by that I mean...GOVERNMENT TAX CREDIT INCENTIVES!

    A of now, potential tax credits for EV are at $7500 and proposed legislation of $12,500 tax credit per EV! Of course there are some hoops to jump thru to get the max but it can be done if you are creative.

    AND, if you are a small business owner, the current IRS Section 179 Equipment Purchase Tax Deduction PLUS the EV Tax Credit could make the Ford F150 Lightning one of the best returns on investment that you can make.

    For example, I ran the numbers on the the Section 179 Tax Deduction PLUS the EV Credit and the Ford F150 EV Lightning (List price $40k) and it would end up costing me only $16,000 after taxes!

    Considering the used car market is hot as hell, I could then flip the vehicle in a year for $30-35k and pocket a nice profit!

    More things to consider...

    https://www.section179.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippy View Post
    I could argue either side of the debate podium regarding Electric Vehicles but I've studied up a bit on the new Ford F150 Lightning (Pro Model for $39.9k and so far I'm pretty impressed.

    What say you knuckleheads?

    Just a couple of articles below;

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...evealed-specs/

    https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...egular-buyers/

    And a few videos;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFWYYBzBSlY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdvyDcsvtGM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGmOoezWc20
    Sorry Slippy, Fords don't SPARK my interest.

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    So.. picture this.

    45min wait while people charge their EV.
    At home, 24 hours to get 72 miles on 120v. 13 hours to get a full charge at 240v.
    A charging station for Tesla, one for ford, another for Chevy and another for Merc.

    The future looks bright, doesn’t it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippy View Post
    Some of you naysayers are missing the big picture on Electric Vehicles and by that I mean...GOVERNMENT TAX CREDIT INCENTIVES!

    A of now, potential tax credits for EV are at $7500 and proposed legislation of $12,500 tax credit per EV! Of course there are some hoops to jump thru to get the max but it can be done if you are creative.

    AND, if you are a small business owner, the current IRS Section 179 Equipment Purchase Tax Deduction PLUS the EV Tax Credit could make the Ford F150 Lightning one of the best returns on investment that you can make.

    For example, I ran the numbers on the the Section 179 Tax Deduction PLUS the EV Credit and the Ford F150 EV Lightning (List price $40k) and it would end up costing me only $16,000 after taxes!

    Considering the used car market is hot as hell, I could then flip the vehicle in a year for $30-35k and pocket a nice profit!

    More things to consider...

    https://www.section179.org/
    That is definitely a consideration and with your brilliant business mind, it will probably work. (What you did with OfficeMax when you owned the lumber co-op was sheer genius, so there is no way I would ever doubt your ability to find a way to make a decent profit on EVs. Hell, the whole concept of starting a lumber co-op was genius.)

    Just playing devil's advocate... What part is Ford/government NOT telling us about this plan? For example, how much are they going to charge to dispose of the batteries when/if they die? I have a whole pile of old laptops collecting dust in the corner because I refuse to spend the $30 each to get rid of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ken View Post
    If you're a car guy you know electric vehicles have been around since the 1800's, I like electric vehicles and might even own one one day but I'm a combustion engine guy at heart, one thing that holds me back is charging, I don't know about you but when I travel I go further than 300 miles, where do you charge? not like they have gas style electric stations, if I'm driving down route 66 and need a charge for my Ford truck where do I stop? I will say that in Aurburn Hills Mi. at a Target store I seen charging areas for Tesla cars, I was surprised but what about my GM, Ford or? I really like the new Hummer coming out but the lack of distance and charging station options will hold me back.

    I'm I missing something?

    What sucks is the wife has given me the okay when this is available but I think I'll be too old before I feel like I can go anywhere without worries.

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    The electricity bill to charge it will cost more than the gas on an economy car. If everyone has an electric car of truck how will all that power be produced? The grids in California and Texas have already shut down because of weather or other draws the grid can't handle. This entire electric vehicle idea is undoable from the get-go. Electric bills will be insanely high.....wait for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inor View Post
    That is definitely a consideration and with your brilliant business mind, it will probably work. (What you did with OfficeMax when you owned the lumber co-op was sheer genius, so there is no way I would ever doubt your ability to find a way to make a decent profit on EVs. Hell, the whole concept of starting a lumber co-op was genius.)

    Just playing devil's advocate... What part is Ford/government NOT telling us about this plan? For example, how much are they going to charge to dispose of the batteries when/if they die? I have a whole pile of old laptops collecting dust in the corner because I refuse to spend the $30 each to get rid of them.
    People will do what they did when they started charging to dispose of tires, throw them on the side of the road in the middle of the night and let the city/county dispose of them. They'll do the same with batteries, maybe the government will require you to register your batteries and tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inor View Post
    Electric vehicles sound really great... if you live in suburbia AND you happen to have free or really cheap electricity. Raising unicorns for profit sounds really great too, if they really poop ice cream.
    Ice cream and rainbow Skittles.

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    My position remains the same that it has always been. Electric vehicles are leaps and bounds ahead of internal combustion engines. Torque and horsepower of electric motors blow engines away. There is a reason all of your big locomotives that move thousands of tons of freight are ALL electric motor-driven. Ever see a Hellcat race a Tesla? I don't need engineers to produce a better electric motor. I need engineers to produce a better BATTERY. It needs to get 300 miles on a charge, and above all else, I need to be able to fully recharge it in 10 minutes or less. Do THAT, and I am sold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shootbrownelk View Post
    The electricity bill to charge it will cost more than the gas on an economy car. If everyone has an electric car of truck how will all that power be produced? The grids in California and Texas have already shut down because of weather or other draws the grid can't handle. This entire electric vehicle idea is undoable from the get-go. Electric bills will be insanely high.....wait for it.
    Ford is also offering 2 years free charges in one of their charging stations after you buy a Ford F150 Lightning. Sounds like they keep upping the ante!

    Regarding a drain on the grid, I think its pretty evident that most people will not get an EV. Hell, Tesla has sold a somewhere around 2 million vehicles (check my stat on that one, I'm going from memory) and I still rarely see one in the wild!

    Plus, it seems as if the cost to charge a car is much less than the strain that microwaves, hairdryers and toaster ovens put on the grid daily!

    But for me, I'm also thinking it would be a cool project to build a Solar Home Charging Station...

    I'll keep my eyes and ears open and see how this Ford F150 EV thing progresses.

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