I wonder who you can believe

[hawgrider]

I have absolutely no use for "Welfare" ranchers. We have a lot of them here. No matter how low the grazing fees are ($3.50 per MONTH for a cow and calf) they still bitch and want more. Not to mention the fact that they think they own all the wildlife, as well as wanting complete control of the land that they lease the GRASS on....they want to determine who hunts and who doesn't.
Cliven Bundy and his kids are nothing more than freeloaders who don't want to pay their way. They're stealing from us taxpayers.
That SOB Bundy owes the BLM over a million dollars in grazing fees...that ass-hat is no patriot...he's a frickin' moocher.

Interesting inside viewpoint. Sounds like the guys on fed/state land "I've been hunting here 30 yrs so you can't hunt here. Oh really...

[hawgrider]

[Inor]

Thanks for that! I had forgotten about Wild Bill. He makes more sense than all of the talking heads on T.V. put together.

[hawgrider]

Thanks for that! I had forgotten about Wild Bill. He makes more sense than all of the talking heads on T.V. put together.

Me too. His web site got hacked he was down for a bit a while back. I hit his site today looking for his take on recent events.

[OSFG]

I can see were a state with a sparse population could have trouble maintaining the lands of the state that aren't owned...therefore seeks funds from the federal government to maintain. In essence turning the land over to the federal government. To me this is wrong. If a state cannot maintain it...sell it off...homestead it out. The federal government should not own anything but buildings in DC. The fed is not supposed to own parts of this country...they can provide tax dollars to help keep up national parks etc....but our federal government is of the people...by the people...FOR the People...so land is either open to the public....owned by the state...or owned by a person.

My 2cents
Osfg

[hawgrider]

Since Saturday, the brothers and a small band of supporters have occupied the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, which they seized to protest the U.S. government’s control of vast tracts of Western land.

On Tuesday, for the first time, they allowed two reporters to join them inside their refuge for a night marked by long discussions and moments of hair-trigger tension.

Earlier, the Bundys had heard from people they trusted that federal law enforcement agents were assembling in Burns, the nearest town,

http://news.yahoo.com/pizza-rifles-t...055624373.html

[James m]

The federal government holds 1.8 million acres in the Hawaiian Islands. Everywhere you turn its federal land. But to put that in perspective 1.8 million acres on an island, is 2,800 square miles. Maui and oahu are only about 575 square miles combined.

[hawgrider]

The federal government holds 1.8 million acres in the Hawaiian Islands. Everywhere you turn its federal land. But to put that in perspective 1.8 million acres on an island, is 2,800 square miles. Maui and oahu are only about 575 square miles combined.

Is most of that on the big island or is it scattered on all those islands?

[shootbrownelk]

The federal government holds 1.8 million acres in the Hawaiian Islands. Everywhere you turn its federal land. But to put that in perspective 1.8 million acres on an island, is 2,800 square miles. Maui and oahu are only about 575 square miles combined.

That's lots of acres for O'bummer & Moochelle to roam after they get a boot in the ass out of the "People's House". He'll probably run for mayor of Chicago though, there's so many guns to be controlled. His butt-buddy Rahm Imanuel will probably resign or be recalled soon.

[James m]

Its scattered. On a lot of islands between most of Hawaii and midway they are governed by fish and wildlife. Even the ones near the rest of Hawaii, you are prohibited from landing boats there, the island is off limits because of thousands of sea birds. There was a problem around the late 1800's they were going extinct, but now there's a million of them.