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    Quote Originally Posted by hawgrider View Post
    Use them where I work. They are heavy if your counting ounces.
    I agree that it is somewhat heavy. However, the ability to access water is kind of important, and this is a tool that allows people to do just that from an atypical source. I am up in the air if I want to carry one as I am only a single person. If I were in a group, we would most definitely have one amongst us. I also have hiking pants that have lots of cargo pockets. I plan on carrying certain items that are somewhat heavy or frequently accessed in my pockets (Leatherman, Altoids Fire kit, compass, etc.). This key could be kept in a thigh pocket. Carrying loads is all about how they are dispersed upon your body. My structural firefighting gear weighs about 70 pounds before I even pick up a tool. However, that gear is distributed across my body, and it does not feel as heavy as a result. I am still not going to win races while in it, but I can move fairly quickly if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kfilly View Post
    I agree that it is somewhat heavy. However, the ability to access water is kind of important, and this is a tool that allows people to do just that from an atypical source. I am up in the air if I want to carry one as I am only a single person. If I were in a group, we would most definitely have one amongst us. I also have hiking pants that have lots of cargo pockets. I plan on carrying certain items that are somewhat heavy or frequently accessed in my pockets (Leatherman, Altoids Fire kit, compass, etc.). This key could be kept in a thigh pocket. Carrying loads is all about how they are dispersed upon your body. My structural firefighting gear weighs about 70 pounds before I even pick up a tool. However, that gear is distributed across my body, and it does not feel as heavy as a result. I am still not going to win races while in it, but I can move fairly quickly if needed.
    The key would help a urban dweller get out of the area but for me it would be useless. In Michigan there are so many natural water sources it would not be worth the weight to me.

    You can also substitute that key by just using and carrying a mutli tool like the Gerber I have that has the needle nose pliers then you wouldn't need the key at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawgrider View Post
    The key would help a urban dweller get out of the area but for me it would be useless. In Michigan there are so many natural water sources it would not be worth the weight to me.

    You can also substitute that key by just using and carrying a mutli tool like the Gerber I have that has the needle nose pliers then you wouldn't need the key at all.
    I have seen rural businesses with those types of hose spigots where a water key would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kfilly View Post
    I have seen rural businesses with those types of hose spigots where a water key would work.
    If I'm on foot or not I won't be out in the open let alone trespassing at any business near a road. Jus sayin...

    You may depending on what hardware be able to get a plastic version which is much lighter if your counting ounces. Not as durable of course but like I said many of those spigots can be used with the thin needle nose on a Gerber multi tool.

    I'm counting ounces in my inch bag so I won't carry one.

    It would be a great option for those that don't have a creek, river, lake or stream every half mile like we do in Mi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawgrider View Post
    You may depending on what hardware be able to get a plastic version which is much lighter if your counting ounces. Not as durable of course but like I said many of those spigots can be used with the thin needle nose on a Gerber multi tool.
    It would not be as durable, but one could get a few uses out of it. I wonder if a 3D printed one could be made lighter, or a skeleton like setup?

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    The issue I had with my leatherman/gerber with those spigots, was that I ended up stripping off the top of the spigot trying it that way. Maybe a type of socket or plastic, limited use socket? Just enough for more leverage with a pair of pliers, but not the weight of an entire tool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by juskom95 View Post
    It would not be as durable, but one could get a few uses out of it. I wonder if a 3D printed one could be made lighter, or a skeleton like setup?

    EDIT:
    The issue I had with my leatherman/gerber with those spigots, was that I ended up stripping off the top of the spigot trying it that way. Maybe a type of socket or plastic, limited use socket? Just enough for more leverage with a pair of pliers, but not the weight of an entire tool?
    Needle nose will wreck the spigots... the grounds keepers here trash them cuz they are to lazy to get the key. But if your stealing water who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawgrider View Post
    Needle nose will wreck the spigots... the grounds keepers here trash them cuz they are to lazy to get the key. But if your stealing water who cares?
    I never got the spigot open more than enough for a drip or two over a month period. This was a newer spigot the previous owner replaced and the metal just bent under my pliers.
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    I never got the spigot open more than enough for a drip or two over a month period. This was a newer spigot the previous owner replaced and the metal just bent under my pliers.
    We have older buildings ours are easily defeated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hawgrider View Post
    We have older buildings ours are easily defeated.


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    The one on my house is like this:



    Instead of a square it is rounded now!

    I have used pliers on the ones you posted and it works, I wasn't even thinking of the 'heavy duty,' ones, but the cheap residential ones.



    I figure I'll buy a sillcock key and if its an issue, I'll ditch it.
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    This is what I think of when I hear "4 way spigot key" these are the heavy ones.

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