EMP, Grid Down, and other Sideways cooking

[MountainGirl]

we have an outdoor freezer 6 months out of the year... refrigeration almost another 3... I am curious how the southerners will enjoy no A/C???

Slippy nailed it.

Our prep for that is direct solar-powered fans for daytime, and a dedicated solar-generator to power a fan for nights/sleeping.
It wont be pleasant.

[Prepared One]

we have an outdoor freezer 6 months out of the year... refrigeration almost another 3... I am curious how the southerners will enjoy no A/C???

I once went two weeks without AC and no generator after a hurricane back in the 80's. Think hell on earth. I was living in a small apartment with one door and one window in the back room. There was zero cross breeze. Besides, if you left everything open then you have the bugs and the Masquetos and the god awful humidity. Everything is wet or flooded and hot as hell. No fun.

That's why we have 2 generators, one solar generator and plenty of screened doors and windows. Long term we will have to cope, but not till every other option available to us has been exhausted.

[SOCOM42]

We lose AC and we are royally and fully red hot poker style skaruude! Hell on earth, literally.
Except a moist and wet moldy fungus hell.

So basically screwed with a red hot poker dipped in mold and fungus.

I can live without AC, I have it but it is used only 2-5 days each summer.

We live in the shade of basically a forest, pines that are 4 foot plus in diameter surround us and other types also.

It is the winters that are my problem, if the place freezes I loose my water pipes, plus my ass under certain conditions.

We lost a pipe in early March to minus 20 below weather, had to cut out a hole in the floor 3 feet X 10 inches to get to it.

Kid listened to where the water was hitting the floor, I can't hear shit like that, hearing really sucks.

Some rodent stripped out some insulation off the joisting under an unheated floor,

did a temporary fix on it with Tygon tubing until warm weather allows me to go under it.

It will be redone over all the way with PEX-B tubing, insulation and sheet aluminum will cover the whole run.

The leak blew out an added $350.00 on my spring water bill which I just paid 20 minutes ago.


My secondary heat sources require no electric to run, propane wall heaters, Kerosene heaters and wood stoves.

Those Kerosun heaters work real well.

Gen sets will run furnaces and freezers, I watch the freezer thermometers, they are outside remote monitoring types.

start gensets when needed to cool down in summer, in winter, I can just put the stuff in a shelter if I have to.

All eight temperature receiver heads are in one place in the home.

It is usually colder outside than in a fridge.

[Mad Trapper]

I can live without AC, I have it but it is used only 2-5 days each summer.

We live in the shade of basically a forest, pines that are 4 foot plus in diameter surround us and other types also.

It is the winters that are my problem, if the place freezes I loose my water pipes, plus my ass under certain conditions.

We lost a pipe in early March to minus 20 below weather, had to cut out a hole in the floor 3 feet X 10 inches to get to it.

Kid listened to where the water was hitting the floor, I can't hear shit like that, hearing really sucks.

Some rodent stripped out some insulation off the joisting under an unheated floor,

did a temporary fix on it with Tygon tubing until warm weather allows me to go under it.

It will be redone over all the way with PEX-B tubing, insulation and sheet aluminum will cover the whole run.

The leak blew out an added $350.00 on my spring water bill which I just paid 20 minutes ago.


My secondary heat sources require no electric to run, propane wall heaters, Kerosene heaters and wood stoves.

Those Kerosun heaters work real well.

Gen sets will run furnaces and freezers, I watch the freezer thermometers, they are outside remote monitoring types.

start gensets when needed to cool down in summer, in winter, I can just put the stuff in a shelter if I have to.

All eight temperature receiver heads are in one place in the home.

It is usually colder outside than in a fridge.

Did you get screwed with white pines coming down last heavy storm?

My place seems like yours, I have 200 year old pines, they shed branchs every storm. Last hard storm , you got too, was a mess.

I use a farm tractor, put out a 3/8" chocker chain and pile the debris but side to choker. Then I can pull huge piles at once. I spent a whole day doing that, with a helper. And the little shit is still there. When I do that small stuff will harvest pine cones, awsome for starting the woodstoe.

[BucketBack]

In '70 Mom, Dad, and me walked 2 miles into the woods to find pine trees. We dug a white pine tree and put it in 5 gallon bucket, walked back and planted it.

We did this 3 times over the weekend before heading back to The Motor City.

In 2019, I paid $250 to have the 3 dropped across my drive, then I bucked and bucked.

Never fear, over the years there are plenty of babies around.

[MountainGirl]

In '70 Mom, Dad, and me walked 2 miles into the woods to find pine trees. We dug a white pine tree and put it in 5 gallon bucket, walked back and planted it.

We did this 3 times over the weekend before heading back to The Motor City.

In 2019, I paid $250 to have the 3 dropped across my drive, then I bucked and bucked.

Never fear, over the years there are plenty of babies around.

Moving forward always, no reason looking back.

[SOCOM42]

Did you get screwed with white pines coming down last heavy storm?

My place seems like yours, I have 200 year old pines, they shed branchs every storm. Last hard storm , you got too, was a mess.

I use a farm tractor, put out a 3/8" chocker chain and pile the debris but side to choker. Then I can pull huge piles at once. I spent a whole day doing that, with a helper. And the little shit is still there. When I do that small stuff will harvest pine cones, awsome for starting the woodstoe.

Oh, yes for sure, storm took a lot down, have to take the chain saw to some to be able to move them,

about a 1/4 of a cord worth, will start on that in a week or two, I have a huge pile of branches, other things to do first,

always is, some are up to 5-6 inches in diameter, all long dead and dried out before they came down.

A lot of the small pieces find their way inside, via the dogs, have enough at the end of a week to start a fire in the wood stove.